Warning about Detonator 40.41 and UT2003 - Page 2

|JuiceZ| · 09-16-02, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by Matthyahuw
ah, so THAT's what my issues was!!!

I was kicking myself trying to find out what was up...just froze every so often for a sec at a time...piss me off!

Same here, I was seeing texture anomalities and annoying pauses during gameplay too. off to install the 30.82's.....

thcdru2k · 09-16-02, 07:35 PM

the first time i loaded ut2k3 i had ALOT of textures anomalities, but i changed some settings either in ut2k3 or the 40.41 dets , and they work perfectly fine. i don't know what setting that was, all i know is that the 40.41 dets work perfectly smooth for me. i run ut wit in 800x600x32 wit max settins and no aa or af.

|JuiceZ| · 09-16-02, 10:22 PM

welp I'm running it now w/ the 30.82's and its running great no textures tearing or anything.

Matthyahuw · 09-16-02, 11:45 PM

Gib said he just went to OGL with the 40s, and it's fine...

thcdru2k · 09-17-02, 12:01 AM

woh OGL? isn't d3d faster and better?

Kruno · 09-17-02, 08:31 AM

Can he post some scores with the 40.xx in D3d and Ogl?

Quote:

Originally posted by Matthyahuw
Gib said he just went to OGL with the 40s, and it's fine...

Chalnoth · 09-19-02, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thcdru2k
woh OGL? isn't d3d faster and better?

Well, OpenGL doesn't have the initial pause when loading a level (that isn't much), and it does feel a little smoother on my machine.

That is, I can run at 800x600x32 with all details maxed and 2x FSAA and 8-degree aniso decently in OpenGL, but not so in Direct3D (this is with a GeForce4 Ti 4200).

On a personal note with the 40.41 drivers, I don't think I'm going to touch them again. They were primarily released for NV30 emulation support for developers, and really don't have much business in pretty much any gamer's machine...just too buggy. Fortunately, they do lend hope for the next version of the detonators...the vastly improved control panels will be great once they're fixed.

Gator · 09-19-02, 05:42 AM

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Originally posted by Chalnoth

On a personal note with the 40.41 drivers, I don't think I'm going to touch them again. ...the vastly improved control panels will be great once they're fixed.

fear not, I hear by October Nvidia should have a second release of the Det4 driver series with lots of bug fixes

I'm looking forward to those.

But to be honest, I really havent had any issues with 40.41 and UT2k3 Demo or build927. (me shrugs) I am running Opengl though, MS d3d is da devil. Oh glide how I miss you so

Greg · 09-19-02, 06:28 AM

I tried installing the 40.41 and 30.82 drivers last night and repeated the process 3 times. I conclude:

The 40.41 drivers are slightly faster in UT2003 benchmarks (and for me, 5% faster in 3DMark2001se). However, the 30.82 drivers actually appear 'smoother' in UT2003 (and Operation Flashpoint, the only other game I tested.)

When I say 'smooth', I mean if I spin the camera with the mouse, even though the frame rate was between 40 and 110fps, the 'feel' and 'look' was definately smoother with the older drivers. That is why I installed and reinstalled them a few times to compare, and ended up keeping the 30.82s to play the game.

Both sets of drivers exhibited occasional pauses or slow downs for no particularly good reason (Eg. nothing special happening on screen, or complex area visible.)

Gator · 09-19-02, 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by Greg
I tried installing the 40.41 and 30.82 drivers last night and repeated the process 3 times. I conclude:

The 40.41 drivers are slightly faster in UT2003 benchmarks (and for me, 5% faster in 3DMark2001se). However, the 30.82 drivers actually appear 'smoother' in UT2003 (and Operation Flashpoint, the only other game I tested.)

When I say 'smooth', I mean if I spin the camera with the mouse, even though the frame rate was between 40 and 110fps, the 'feel' and 'look' was definately smoother with the older drivers. That is why I installed and reinstalled them a few times to compare, and ended up keeping the 30.82s to play the game.

Both sets of drivers exhibited occasional pauses or slow downs for no particularly good reason (Eg. nothing special happening on screen, or complex area visible.)

hmmmm... interesting, maybe i'll try the 30.82 afterall. I don't give a damn about benchmarks if the game actually APPEARS smoother with a less fps. It's kind of like Voodoo2 Glide with UT1. Sure it would never go above 60fps even with the fastest CPU installed, but the game play was smoother than GF4TI4600 overclocked with opengl! Yes it was that good. (me misses Glide)

09-16-02, 07:35 PM	#14
thcdru2k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milpitas, CA Posts: 1,142	the first time i loaded ut2k3 i had ALOT of textures anomalities, but i changed some settings either in ut2k3 or the 40.41 dets , and they work perfectly fine. i don't know what setting that was, all i know is that the 40.41 dets work perfectly smooth for me. i run ut wit in 800x600x32 wit max settins and no aa or af. __________________ Athlon XP 1.58GHz \| MSI KT3 Ultra2 \| 256MB DDR PC-3000 \| GeForce 4 ti4200 64mb @ 310/533 \| IBM 120GXP 40.0GB \| Det. 41.09 \| DX 9 RC2 \| Win XP SP1 11118 3DMarks

09-16-02, 10:22 PM	#15
\|JuiceZ\| Registered User Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 3,285	welp I'm running it now w/ the 30.82's and its running great no textures tearing or anything. __________________ primary MBP Core i5 2010 \| HR \| OCZ 120GB SSD gaming Core i5-2500K @ 4.1GHz w/ CM Hyper212+ \| MSI N560GTX-Ti TF II/OC \| MSI P67A-GD55 \| Silverstone FT02 \| X360 250GB \| Kinect htpc IONITX-A-U \| 2GB \| M350 \| XBMC Linux \| SABnzbd, sickbeard, couchpotato \| NAS Synology DS411J \| 4TB hometheater KURO PDP-5020 \| HK AVR2600 \| Definitive BP2006TL(2) & CLR2300 \| Polk R50(2) \| Sony S470 \| HarmonyOne

09-16-02, 11:45 PM	#16
Matthyahuw Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 919	Gib said he just went to OGL with the 40s, and it's fine... __________________ Shalom!

09-17-02, 12:01 AM	#17
thcdru2k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milpitas, CA Posts: 1,142	woh OGL? isn't d3d faster and better? __________________ Athlon XP 1.58GHz \| MSI KT3 Ultra2 \| 256MB DDR PC-3000 \| GeForce 4 ti4200 64mb @ 310/533 \| IBM 120GXP 40.0GB \| Det. 41.09 \| DX 9 RC2 \| Win XP SP1 11118 3DMarks

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09-19-02, 06:28 AM	#21
Greg Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,177	I tried installing the 40.41 and 30.82 drivers last night and repeated the process 3 times. I conclude: The 40.41 drivers are slightly faster in UT2003 benchmarks (and for me, 5% faster in 3DMark2001se). However, the 30.82 drivers actually appear 'smoother' in UT2003 (and Operation Flashpoint, the only other game I tested.) When I say 'smooth', I mean if I spin the camera with the mouse, even though the frame rate was between 40 and 110fps, the 'feel' and 'look' was definately smoother with the older drivers. That is why I installed and reinstalled them a few times to compare, and ended up keeping the 30.82s to play the game. Both sets of drivers exhibited occasional pauses or slow downs for no particularly good reason (Eg. nothing special happening on screen, or complex area visible.)