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Old 10-02-03, 01:38 PM   #109
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eh - it uses DDR1 ram and the core has slight rearrangments in it for better heat dissipation, neither of which make it much better @ overclocking....
OMG...

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Old 10-02-03, 01:38 PM   #110
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ROFL!!!!

You are trying to suggest that the ATi card looks like a 6 year old put it together.. ROFLMAO!!!! Thats just plain *Beep*. Maybe you should look at a few more pics of the actual ATi model.
I believe he was referring to this:
http://www20.tomshardware.com/graphi...n_9800-02.html
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Old 10-02-03, 01:39 PM   #111
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ROFL!!!!

You are trying to suggest that the ATi card looks like a 6 year old put it together.. ROFLMAO!!!! Thats just plain *Beep*. Maybe you should look at a few more pics of the actual ATi model.

The R360 and PCB are designed around overclocking. It even uses Low-K. the overclocking potential of the R360 both core and Ram are *Much* higher than the iceQ.
the r360 uses low-k ?

um... don't you mean the rV360 ?
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Old 10-02-03, 01:39 PM   #112
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its toms so ignore the text but heed the pix:

http://www20.tomshardware.com/graphi...n_9800-02.html
In reply i say look at the finished product as a whole..

http://www20.tomshardware.com/graphi...n_9800-01.html

It looks Bad-ass and pretty much everyone agrees about that.
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Old 10-02-03, 01:42 PM   #113
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In reply i say look at the finished product as a whole..

http://www20.tomshardware.com/graphi...n_9800-01.html

It looks Bad-ass and pretty much everyone agrees about that.
Im not gonna get into an argument over aesthetics or personal opinion, but in terms of functionality, I can tell you that they replaced their old mediocre stock coolers with a decent cooler. There are OEMs out there with much more funcitonal coolers tho.
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Old 10-02-03, 01:44 PM   #114
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It looks Bad-ass and pretty much everyone agrees about that.
I think quality of workmanship is what the OP was getting at, not the KEWL looks! I'm sure the e-riceboys would be pleased with either the 9800XT or the NV38 in their windowed cases...
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Old 10-02-03, 02:31 PM   #115
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Numbers and source, please? Or did you pull that out of your arse?

I want to know Anand's numbers and source... or did they just pull them out of an Nvidia PR person's arse.
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Old 10-02-03, 03:51 PM   #116
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Hmm...IF there is static clip planes, I wouldn't be suprised......considering its the one benchmark everyone will run to once it comes out for DX9......considering microsoft had added that it is the "best" DX9 benchmarking tool...
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Old 10-02-03, 04:58 PM   #117
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And it's sad, isn't it? Here it is, NVIDIA gets a huge performance increase in a new game, and we all assume they're cheating. Of course, they probably are. Remember when things used to be simple?
Because they have a penchant for it. They have even made the appearance that they were going to stop and reform. But that was all PR smoke and mirrors

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Wait until the clip planes are confirmed to damn NVIDIA.
You never should have mentioned the clip planes if you don't want people to damn NVIDIA. You should know by now that people are going to take this rumor and run with it!
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Well dont attack the driver team. It amazes me some of the stuff that the Nvidia driver team "can" pull off. Can you imagine just how the Nvidia driver team works to get this done?
I'm not attacking the driver team. Just pointing out the coincidences in benchmark scores between ATI and NVIDIA. You don't think it's odd that pre-optimization NVIDIA gets its ass handed to it and post-optimization scores are virtually in a deadlock with ATI? It should be apparent that NVIDIA sets ATI's scores as a target and "optimizes" as much as needed to get to that goal.

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Even if People say Nvidia drivers are not gold standard anymore. You can at least Say the Nvidia driver team definately knows what its doing in most situations.
NVIDIA's OGL drivers were the gold standard, from a developer's point of view. Which has nill to do with D3D. I think most people will tell you that NVIDIA's OGL drivers are a lot better than there D3D drivers, even from ages ago.
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Old 10-02-03, 05:17 PM   #119
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Not necessarily. Though Valve did make a mixed mode path, AFAIK there are other things Nvidia could attempt to optimize during shader compilation such as reordering instructions for their shader architecture. In the original HL2 benchmarks, the 5900 Ultra was only 20% behind the 9800PRO - based on the nature of NV3x, I see that number able to be made up with optimizations. And, as we can see from the final result of 3dmark03, Nvidia's shader replacement can look just as good as the original if they work hard enough on it, while offering very fast speeds.
I hope you're not being serious. Look again at Valve's presentation about HL2: http://www.techreport.com/etc/2003q3/valve/index.x?pg=2

Straight off the slide entitled "Special Mixed Mode for NV3X."
-Uses partial-precision registers where appropriate
-Trades off texture fetches for pixel shader instruction count
-Case-by-case shader code restructuring.

It sure sounds to me like the reordered instructions in an optimal way for NV3x.

re: 3dmark03 how do we know what is really going on? Remember that slide that talked about screen cap detection?
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The R360 and PCB are designed around overclocking. It even uses Low-K. the overclocking potential of the R360 both core and Ram are *Much* higher than the iceQ.
R360 uses Low-K?

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