Now is a good time to buy a FX 5800? - Page 2

5150 Joker · 10-13-03, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ragejg
I know, they're scarce...

But with the best 5600U's sittin around $200, if a 5800 could be found for $190-$220, it wouldn't be such a bad deal, would it??

I'm sure you could call an FX5800 @ ultra speeds a "good performer"... or a "decent card for the money"...

It's never a good time to buy one of those.

ragejg · 10-14-03, 07:17 AM

I beg to differ, ATI_Luvr9700, I mean, 5150 Joker (I knew you'd come in here and dish me some flak

)...

A 5800 sits snugly and squarely in the middle of 5600U and 5900... IMO...

Ruined · 10-14-03, 07:48 AM

The turbine fans on the 5800 non-ultra (even without the leaf blower) are still noisy as hell compared to the fans on the 5900 non-ultra (like the MSI one). I couldn't stand the whistling noise the ASUS 5800 non-ultra made when in 2D mode (i.e. just using windows) and sold it.

Greg · 10-14-03, 08:13 AM

I bought one of the last 5800 non-ultras around here since it was good value. It is significantly faster than the latest 5600ultra (when multi texturing). It should overclock well, mine gets to near ultra speeds running continous tests for 12hours. The cooling fan is silent until it hits ~80degC, then it is quite loud. With room temps of 25deg, it normally runs at 40-60degC, but at near ultra speeds it gets to 90degC (card fails at ~100degC, damage at ~140degC, but has thermal protection). I would only recommend this card to people who (like myself) want it instead of the 5600 which performs a bit disapointing. I upgraded from a Geforce3 and this is significantly faster. There are some 5900 non ultras approaching these prices, and some other alternatives to consider.

green_meanie · 10-14-03, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greg
I bought one of the last 5800 non-ultras around here since it was good value. It is significantly faster than the latest 5600ultra (when multi texturing). It should overclock well, mine gets to near ultra speeds running continous tests for 12hours. The cooling fan is silent until it hits ~80degC, then it is quite loud. With room temps of 25deg, it normally runs at 40-60degC, but at near ultra speeds it gets to 90degC (card fails at ~100degC, damage at ~140degC, but has thermal protection). I would only recommend this card to people who (like myself) want it instead of the 5600 which performs a bit disapointing. I upgraded from a Geforce3 and this is significantly faster. There are some 5900 non ultras approaching these prices, and some other alternatives to consider.

I don't think the 5600Ultra is disappointing. The only thing it runs slower than a GF4 on my rig without AA or AF is 3Dmark2001. Every other game or bench it's faster with or without AA or AF turned on. Even at 456/878 the highest temp. my GPU runs at is 46c. It is slower than a 5800 but i'm also not turning my box into a furnace either.

At this point if you want an Nvidia card and want something that's not going to break the bank and is faster go for a 5900 non ultra.

ragejg · 10-14-03, 09:36 AM

yeh, the 5600U does run cool even when OC'ed, I've noticed that over the last couple days... MUCH cooler than the backside of an NV20 or R200...

green_meanie · 10-14-03, 09:55 AM

Yeah it does run cool, thanks to the flip chip. Right now in 2D mode as i'm posting this it's at 37c. That's with my case temp at 26c. I'm really happy with the card and with the 52.13 dets it performs well. Better than with the 45.23 dets. If I paid $299-$399 for the card I would be whistling a different tune, lol.

10-14-03, 07:17 AM	#14
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10-14-03, 07:48 AM	#15
Ruined Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,447	The turbine fans on the 5800 non-ultra (even without the leaf blower) are still noisy as hell compared to the fans on the 5900 non-ultra (like the MSI one). I couldn't stand the whistling noise the ASUS 5800 non-ultra made when in 2D mode (i.e. just using windows) and sold it. __________________ We're all in it together. Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.66GHz CPU \| Intel G965WH mobo \| 8GB (4x2GB) DDR2-667mhz CAS5 RAM (1066MHz FSB) \| BFG GeForce 285 GTX OC 1GB \| Dell E228WFP 22" DVI-HDCP LCD Monitor \| 1TB Western Digital RE3 SATA2 Main Drive \| 500GBx2 Western Digital RE3 SATA2 Scratch Drives in RAID0 \| Western Digital RE3 1TB SATA2 Media Drive \| External 2TB Western Digital MyBook Backup Drive \| Adaptec eSATA 3.0gbps PCI-E interface \| Sandisk External 12-in-1 Flash Card Reader \| LG GGC-H20L HD DVD/BD reader, DVD writer \| LG GGW-H20L HD DVD/BD reader, DVD/BD writer \| Microsoft E4000 Ergonomic Keyboard \| Logitech Trackman Wheel \| Antec P182 ATX Case \| Thermaltake ToughPower XT 850w modular PSU \| KRK RP-8 Rokit Studio Monitors \| Windows Vista Ultimate x64

10-14-03, 09:36 AM	#18
ragejg nV News Alumni Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finger Lakes of Hell, NY Posts: 5,399	... yeh, the 5600U does run cool even when OC'ed, I've noticed that over the last couple days... MUCH cooler than the backside of an NV20 or R200... __________________ 2010-2011 Reviews: GTX 570 \| GTX 580 \| GTS 450 \| GTX 460 \| GTX 465 Pre-2010 Reviews: 6600 GT \| XMS 4400 DDR \| SilenX Cooler \| 6800 \| 5900 XT \| Personal Cinema \| 5900 NU ______________________________________________ Phenom II x6 1090t @ 4.0 ghz \| Asus M498TD-EVO Am3 SLI nForce 980a \| 2x EVGA GTX 560 SLI \| 2x4gb DDR3-1333 \| Antec EarthWatts EA650 PSU \| 60gb Mushkin Calisto Enhanced Sandforce SSD \| 2x WD2500KS RAID 0 \| Sunbeam Tuniq 3 case \| 24" Asus 19x10 LED LCD \| 26" Panasonic 720p TV \| Sidewinder X5 mouse \| Logitech MX5500 & Revolution mouse \| Altec Lansing 5.1 THX-Certified audio \| Win 7 Ultimate \| desk \| couch "Stars must die so that I may live. I... stepped out of a Supernova."

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10-14-03, 08:13 AM	#16
Greg Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,177	I bought one of the last 5800 non-ultras around here since it was good value. It is significantly faster than the latest 5600ultra (when multi texturing). It should overclock well, mine gets to near ultra speeds running continous tests for 12hours. The cooling fan is silent until it hits ~80degC, then it is quite loud. With room temps of 25deg, it normally runs at 40-60degC, but at near ultra speeds it gets to 90degC (card fails at ~100degC, damage at ~140degC, but has thermal protection). I would only recommend this card to people who (like myself) want it instead of the 5600 which performs a bit disapointing. I upgraded from a Geforce3 and this is significantly faster. There are some 5900 non ultras approaching these prices, and some other alternatives to consider.

10-14-03, 09:55 AM	#19
green_meanie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 179	Yeah it does run cool, thanks to the flip chip. Right now in 2D mode as i'm posting this it's at 37c. That's with my case temp at 26c. I'm really happy with the card and with the 52.13 dets it performs well. Better than with the 45.23 dets. If I paid $299-$399 for the card I would be whistling a different tune, lol.