Not at all happy....

JeffShultz · 10-09-03, 10:44 PM

I bought a Gigabyte 7NXXP mobo for my new system because the hardware sites I'd been to liked it and really liked the nForce 2 400 chipset it used.
Mistake #1...

Silly me, I figured with mature tech like AGP I was pretty safe from oddities in chipset expressions. Mistake #2...

I did get an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro because I remembered what it was like trying (mostly unsuccessfully) to install my GeForce 2 MX under Linux and for some reason I thought ATI support was better. Maybe this was a bad idea... but the board did appear to be faster than the 4600 at around the same price point. I'm not ready to count this a mistake yet... the "new" build_mod in the "How to get your ATI RADEON running..." thread doesn't appear to work with the latest fglrx drivers - it' blows up two out of two hunks.

The point of this is... I'm ticked. I'm running Mandrake 9.1 with the updated 2.4.21-25 kernel.

I've installed the current nforce drivers - a couple of times. I'm annoyed at the GART thing, because I dislike building my own kernel (there's 80,000 choices, and I'll get most of them wrong...) How about updating this patch to work with .21 and maybe a couple of other kernel versions?

And when I put the nvaudio line in my modules.conf and reboot... it's amazing... nvaudio isn't even found.

And, I suspect because of the GART thing, agpgart.o.gz is reporting "device not found" everytime I try it - so I've got a wonderfully unaccellerated non-3D video card.

Maybe a Via KT400 next time instead....

SuLinUX · 10-10-03, 10:58 AM

ATI is very poor indeed in Linux i'm afraid, and from what i've seen so is the nForce.

VIA and Nvidia GFX is the way on Linux.

JeffShultz · 10-10-03, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuLinUX
ATI is very poor indeed in Linux i'm afraid, and from what i've seen so is the nForce.

VIA and Nvidia GFX is the way on Linux.

To bad there is no way my wife will let me go out and buy some new hardware... even if it meant upgrading her Win2k box with my rejects!

blueworm · 10-16-03, 02:45 PM

For agpgart support you must either patch 2.4.21 or use 2.4.22 the other option is to use 2.6.0test7.
Compilling kernels is daunting at first but very rewarding once you get the hang of it.

TheOneKEA · 10-16-03, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuLinUX
ATI is very poor indeed in Linux i'm afraid, and from what i've seen so is the nForce.

VIA and Nvidia GFX is the way on Linux.

nForce[2] driver support is indeed poor. However, ATi has had an epiphany and is now releasing new Catalyst-branded Linux drivers for every card from the Radeon 8500 to the Radeon 9800XT. Just go to the web site, go to the Software and Drivers section, select Linux, select Graphic Driver, select Radeon 9600 Series and click Go.

Download an RPM for your X server version, install it and follow the installation instructions.

blueworm · 10-16-03, 04:34 PM

Nforce2 is fully supported by linux. Except sound card which has no APU driver. Everything else works perfectly.

JeffShultz · 10-16-03, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheOneKEA
nForce[2] driver support is indeed poor. However, ATi has had an epiphany and is now releasing new Catalyst-branded Linux drivers for every card from the Radeon 8500 to the Radeon 9800XT. Just go to the web site, go to the Software and Drivers section, select Linux, select Graphic Driver, select Radeon 9600 Series and click Go.

Download an RPM for your X server version, install it and follow the installation instructions.

I've got those drivers. I've also got some very weird errors (that occurred under Mdk 9.1 and 9.2RC1).

Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M
agpgart: unsupported bridge
agpgart: no supported devices found.

Basically Linux isn't finding my AGP slot. I assume there is a reason that there is some sort of GART patch in the nForce drivers.

JeffShultz · 10-16-03, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blueworm
For agpgart support you must either patch 2.4.21 or use 2.4.22 the other option is to use 2.6.0test7.
Compilling kernels is daunting at first but very rewarding once you get the hang of it.

Are you saying that 2.4.22 has nForce AGPGART support built-in already?

blueworm · 10-17-03, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeffShultz
Are you saying that 2.4.22 has nForce AGPGART support built-in already?

Yes sir...
http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/view...9db8410442f893

TheOneKEA · 10-17-03, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeffShultz
I've got those drivers. I've also got some very weird errors (that occurred under Mdk 9.1 and 9.2RC1).

Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M
agpgart: unsupported bridge
agpgart: no supported devices found.

Basically Linux isn't finding my AGP slot. I assume there is a reason that there is some sort of GART patch in the nForce drivers.

Does this file exist?

/lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o

If it does, then edit /etc/modules.conf and add the following line:

options agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1

Close down any open X applications, then type Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch to virtual console 2, log in as root, then shut down X with the following command (if you use graphical logins):

# init 3

Once X is shut down, type the following commands into the console:

# /sbin/modprobe -r agpgart
# /sbin/modprobe agpgart

Check your dmesg for lines like this:

Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones
agpgart: Detected an Intel i845 Chipset.
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xec000000

If you get those lines, the AGP GART driver found your AGP bridge. Restart X by typing:

# init 5 && logout

You may need to edit your XF86Config to use the proper drivers once you get agpgart working.

JeffShultz · 10-17-03, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheOneKEA
Does this file exist?

/lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o

If it does, then edit /etc/modules.conf and add the following line:

options agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1

Close down any open X applications, then type Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch to virtual console 2, log in as root, then shut down X with the following command (if you use graphical logins):

# init 3

Once X is shut down, type the following commands into the console:

# /sbin/modprobe -r agpgart
# /sbin/modprobe agpgart

Check your dmesg for lines like this:

Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones
agpgart: Detected an Intel i845 Chipset.
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xec000000

If you get those lines, the AGP GART driver found your AGP bridge. Restart X by typing:

# init 5 && logout

You may need to edit your XF86Config to use the proper drivers once you get agpgart working.

Unfortunately this is what I get:
[root@master jbshultz]# modprobe agpgart
/lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o.gz: init_module: No such device
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o.gz failed
modprobe: insmod agpgart failed

As can sort of be seen from above, I do have a file agpgart.o.gz in the right place.

When I exit X (I boot up in init3) there are a bunch of errors that indicate that, quite simply, this thing isn't finding the AGP port.

Frustrating.

JeffShultz · 10-19-03, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blueworm
Yes sir...
http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/view...9db8410442f893

Blast...once again it's saying to recompile the kernel.

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10-09-03, 10:44 PM	#1
JeffShultz Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 8	Not at all happy.... I bought a Gigabyte 7NXXP mobo for my new system because the hardware sites I'd been to liked it and really liked the nForce 2 400 chipset it used. Mistake #1... Silly me, I figured with mature tech like AGP I was pretty safe from oddities in chipset expressions. Mistake #2... I did get an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro because I remembered what it was like trying (mostly unsuccessfully) to install my GeForce 2 MX under Linux and for some reason I thought ATI support was better. Maybe this was a bad idea... but the board did appear to be faster than the 4600 at around the same price point. I'm not ready to count this a mistake yet... the "new" build_mod in the "How to get your ATI RADEON running..." thread doesn't appear to work with the latest fglrx drivers - it' blows up two out of two hunks. The point of this is... I'm ticked. I'm running Mandrake 9.1 with the updated 2.4.21-25 kernel. I've installed the current nforce drivers - a couple of times. I'm annoyed at the GART thing, because I dislike building my own kernel (there's 80,000 choices, and I'll get most of them wrong...) How about updating this patch to work with .21 and maybe a couple of other kernel versions? And when I put the nvaudio line in my modules.conf and reboot... it's amazing... nvaudio isn't even found. And, I suspect because of the GART thing, agpgart.o.gz is reporting "device not found" everytime I try it - so I've got a wonderfully unaccellerated non-3D video card. Maybe a Via KT400 next time instead....

10-10-03, 10:58 AM	#2
SuLinUX Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: UK Posts: 847	ATI is very poor indeed in Linux i'm afraid, and from what i've seen so is the nForce. VIA and Nvidia GFX is the way on Linux. __________________ AthlonXP 2600+ / nForce2 Asus A7N8X-X / PNY GeForce FX5900 Ultra / 1024Mb Samsung Ram /nForce Sound / Hansol 920D Plus 19" monitor / Lite-On 32x12x40 / 2x Maxtor HD 40Gb/80Gb / nVidia 7174 driver / Gnome 2.10.1 / Kernel 2.6.11.9 / Slackware 10.0

10-16-03, 02:45 PM	#4
blueworm [DEADAGAIN]blueworm Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 416	For agpgart support you must either patch 2.4.21 or use 2.4.22 the other option is to use 2.6.0test7. Compilling kernels is daunting at first but very rewarding once you get the hang of it.

10-16-03, 04:34 PM	#6
blueworm [DEADAGAIN]blueworm Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 416	Nforce2 is fully supported by linux. Except sound card which has no APU driver. Everything else works perfectly.