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Old 10-21-03, 11:01 PM   #1
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Default nVidia driver Segmentation fault

On my new system - I installed Rehat 9.0.

While I was waiting for my special order video card, I used an old Matrox
Mystique for initial testing, and everything worked - including Open Office,
which I used to create some test documents.

Then my video card arrived, the ASUS V9560VS (with nVidia FX5600).
I downloaded and installed NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run, by following
the instructions to the letter - I'm Linux-aware enough to README first.

The new nVidia-based video card works just fine, but now Open Office
gives a segmentation fault (if you give ooffice command at a terminal), and
the Open Office program obviously does not start up.

Video card: ASUS V9560VS (with nVidia FX5600)
Driver version: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run
Distribution: RedHat 9.0
Video BIOS version: 04.31.20.28.00
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 / 2.60c GHz / 800MHz system bus / 512kB L2-cache
Motherboard: Intel D865 PERLK
Do you have any workaround or fix for this problem?
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Old 10-21-03, 11:47 PM   #2
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Grab a copy of the terminal output from that seg fault and post it, or attach it to a post.

You have the nvidia driver running your X session and have only this problem with it so far? (not that more are expected.. but just checkin' )

Have you tried running glxgears, or glxinfo to see that the driver is fully enabled and installed correctly?

Take a look at the /proc filesystem for info on how your system has the video card operating.

cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
cat /proc/driver/card/0
cat /proc/driver/agp/status
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Old 10-22-03, 12:24 AM   #3
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Yes, other apps also fail on Seg fault, like xmms for example.

cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 nvidia.o Kernel Module 1.0-4496 Wed Jul 16 19:03:09 PDT 2003
GCC version: gcc version 3.2

cat: /proc/driver/card/0: No such file or directory

cat: /proc/driver/agp/status: No such file or directory

glxgears command gives graphical display of spinning gears

Attachment has the following sections:
- ooffice seg fault from terminal
- glxinfo
- XF86Config (XF86Config-4 is not present and not used)
- XFree86.0.log
- XFree86.1.log

Just look for those section headings. Thanks again!
Attached Files
File Type: txt xf86configandlogs.txt (77.3 KB, 158 views)
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Old 10-22-03, 10:58 PM   #4
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No further wisdom to impart on that seg fault, strange. Perhaps someone with the same problem will be able to backtrace that to something in particular, no idea.

Only suggestion is trivial, refresh the oosetup and perhaps the rpms. Was there nothing else changed during the time you noticed this problem develop? XMMS also seg faults with no reason, that sounds like key parts of X are getting confused or conflicting with each other to me. (but I don't have any ideas for finding the cause right now)
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Old 10-22-03, 11:29 PM   #5
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Maybe you are onto something!

I'm using XFree86 4.3.0-2, and nVidia built to 4.0.2.
Maybe an Xpert might know if this presents an issue,
especially regarding segment addressing.

Hopefully nVidia will catch up on this soon. I'm really
dead in the water 'til then.
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Old 10-23-03, 08:45 PM   #6
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GeForce4 ti4200 agp8 card onMSI nforce2 mboard

I'm running kernel 2.6.0 with the nvidia.ko from NV*1.0-4496*pkg2 and X loading "nv" not "nvidia"

If I do all the setup to have X load "nvidia", I lose keyboard in a minute, then mouse loses ability to scroll around virtual desktop, then lockup of some kind, reboot.

/proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status says that nvidia is the driver for agp and it's running agp8

/var/log/X*.0.log says nvidia has loaded fine and has NV_GLX but X's "glx" doesn't load.

...but "nvidia" crashes X. Keyboard goes out first so I can't ctl-alt-backspace out.

Nice audio. I can barely tell any diff between X under nv and nvidia, and nv works, so I can do without glx. For openoffice you might just be able to live with nv instead of nvidia, too.
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Old 10-23-03, 09:18 PM   #7
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Thanks for mentioning the workaround - yes, when I edit
/etc/XF86Config to use Driver "nv" (instead of Driver "nvidia"),
then OpenOffice does start fine. Xmms still seg faults.

Not that I really need xmms.

I heard or read that nVidia built 1.0-4496 to work with X 4.0.2,
also read that nVidia code addresses segments differently.
Plus the latest distros use X 4.3.0 now.

I'm told that nVidia pointed this error toward Redhat 9's
exec shield scheduler, but evidently other distros are affected too.

These are only clues, but a new driver should be made to work
with X 4.3.0 - which is well beyond 4.0.2 in features.

I am particularly concerned that nVidias interface between
X and OpenGL is not working yet... because I write graphical
middleware and depend on OpenGL and good X.

cat/proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
Status: Enabled
Driver: AGPGART
AGP Rate: 8x
Fast Writes: Disabled
SBA: Disabled

Oh the audio... the Creative Audigy 2 is wired through an external
Mackie 1202-VLZ mixer to a Carver Mag Field Power Amp feeding
a pair of Latvian Baltic/Baltek 80 (front speakers) and to an
AudioSource SS One Series 2 processor for the Baltic 30 (rear speakers).
Then there's the Kawai-K4, Roland MT-32, Octapad,
and Boss... older stuff, but it sounds pretty good.
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Old 10-23-03, 11:27 PM   #8
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Default xmms seg fault, X 4.0 4.2 4.3

Does xmms log anything? mplayer still can't find /dev/rtc even though I linked devfs /dev/misc/rtc to /dev/rtc.

I had to put dev/pts back in the kernel to get X to find a pty. devfs MKOLDCOMPAT links weren't enough. Without devpts, pty's were dead. rtc is acting dead for mplayer, and usb is acting dead.

Nvidia should remember that gaming drove hardware sales on the pc so they should develop drivers from the other end for linux, for the development kernels and latest X, not for crusty old "stable" 2.4 and X 2.0 and x286.

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Nvidia should remember that gaming drove hardware sales on the pc so they should develop drivers from the other end for linux, for the development kernels and latest X, not for crusty old "stable" 2.4 and X 2.0 and x286.

-bob [/b]
I think they are driving toward the cutting edge, personally. OpenGL support wasn't necessary for anything circa X 2.0, and TwinView, TV out capability, and FSAA wouldn't have seen much use. :-)

Sure, the windows driver just released the 5x.xx series and has a feature change list that makes a new version of windows look like the same old thing. That is to be expected. Give them some time for details on the linux end where its obvious they aren't pulling the same cash flow for it. I'm confident they'll give us some lovin' soon here...
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Old 10-24-03, 12:15 AM   #10
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Bob:

xmms on the terminal just returns a totally terse
"Segmentation fault".

If you would like the content of a log file, just say which one.
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Default seg fault, log? xmms --debug or -v?

I dumped ATI because I think of ATI and VIA as one choice, nvidia and nforce 2as the alternative, and unless they have a new chip VIA didn't have a real ddr400 fsb chip and the one I had was agp4 so I dumped that mobo and the ATI card in favor of the nvidia, and for getting my WORK done, nv driver and 2048x2046 virtual screen is awesome, with ctwm for eight more workspaces if I need lots of things open. I'm in love with nvidia for this.
I can have my 2.6.0-test* kernel for the other hardware and a superb graphical environment.

I'm using mplayer and realplayer so I don't have xmms right now. I therefore don't know if it has a log file. I downloaded mplayer skins but it doesn't run graphical so I must have a neutered plugin version of mplayer. It is a plugin downloaded for firebird. I will first try compile mplayer source, then try xmms, so don't hold your breath for me to figure out if xmms logs.

locate xmms | grep log

Conceivably xmms could lack a kde lib or on my pc it could have a devfs problem like mplayer, esd, gnome-alsamixer, and 100% of my audio apps other than for ripping cd's and playing cd's through a cd cable. There were half a dozen devfs changes needed. Or xmms could provoke a kde conflict with nvidia's linking for X 4.0! Can you run xmms -v and get "verbose debug" not "version"?

I have an msi nforce2 mcp2-t 6-channel dolby, but jumpered for two channel only. I can change the jumpers, but do you know if 6-channel audio will work?

In another thread somebody says he gets only two channels playing through four speakers(expects two through six). I should ask him if he has a mobo jumper like I do, that could be his problem.

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Old 10-27-03, 06:40 PM   #12
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xmms appears to have no logging capability. Oh well, the CD player is fine for now.

The immediate issue remains: has anyone got a solution to drive the nVidia FX5600 to provide OpenGL functionality with X 4.3.0-2 interoperability? Did or will nVidia provide technical data to XFree86 and DRI?

According to nVidia's README, their driver was built to XFree86 4.0.2 compatibility. Also was told that their glx code addresses segments in a way that differs from the "usual" method. Are these clues?

Also heard that Suse 9 "works fine" with nVidia FX5600, but have no further details yet. Finally, FX5600 video quality and performance are really good, but the driver is lagging a bit.
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