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View Poll Results: Have you cracked a CPU core before?
Yes and I hate myself for it... 5 15.15%
Not yet....give me time.... 28 84.85%
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Old 09-23-02, 03:10 PM   #25
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Shim? I don't need no steenking shims!

I've yet to destroy an AMD CPU by cracking the core. I thought I came close, though with my very first Athlon, an 850 MHz Athlon-A (bringit on the 200 MHz fsb, w00t!).

I made the mistake of buying a Thermaltake Chrome Orb to cool that processor. Little did I realize what a total and utter pain in the flange that bugger of an HSF would be to install. Upon fighting it to get it on the clips, I thought I heard a cracking noise. Instantly my blood pressure surged, but I managed to finish the job. I plugged the fan into the header on my KT7A motherboard and powered it on. It would power up and after about 5 seconds shut down. WTF, I played around with it and after about 15 minutes of profanity I found out I had the fan plugged into the wrong header. Oopsie doodle! I switched it to the right header and powered up my new PC where I was welcomed by the BIOS setup screen. The CPU and HSF were both fine.
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Old 09-24-02, 03:15 PM   #26
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Actually, my current processor has a ever-so-slightly chipped corner. However it works fine. I must be really lucky hehe.

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Old 09-25-02, 02:00 PM   #27
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I voted yes though it didn't kill my CPU and it was because of that chip that I'll never use a shim again. What happen was I put the sucker on backwards and didn't notice it till the heatsink went on. It didn't help matters that I was using TT's Dragon Orb3. The worst sound to someone building a computer is CRUNCH right after you clip on the HSF. I immediately took the shim off and used a different HSF. As you can imagine my blood pressure returned to normal after seeing the Award bios screen. I thought for sure that lil 900 Tbird was a goner.
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Old 09-25-02, 08:05 PM   #28
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I just assembled my system using a lead-weight OCZ Gloliath 2 SE heatsink ( whihc must weight 10lbs or more )

Using a tweakmonster shim, I had no problems whatsoever....The open design makes sure no bridges will be shorted and the shim will stay in place...

I'm a happy camper with a happy CPU....

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Old 09-28-02, 09:14 PM   #29
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Keep your eyes peeled folks...there's a related article on the way...

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Old 09-29-02, 12:04 AM   #30
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Bah, real men don't need cpu shims
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Old 09-29-02, 12:33 AM   #31
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Bah, real men don't need cpu shims
Yep. Real men own P4s that don't need em'.
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Old 09-29-02, 09:04 AM   #32
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That's b/c you're using an Intel cpu with the bomb-proof core...Go play with a ton of AMD cpu's and see how stressful installing an enormous ( and heavy ) copper cooler can be...

For less than $10 and about five seconds of your time installing it...It's great insurance for the processor.

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Old 09-29-02, 12:01 PM   #33
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Agreed with what pelly said. Not using a shim with some heatsinks is damn near guaranteeing you destroy your cpu. Now that is just stupid use a shim.
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Old 09-29-02, 12:34 PM   #34
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newbie question here, i've had a tbird 1ghz and a xp 1.4ghz, i used volcanos on both with no cpu shim, i had no idea what they were. would a cpu shim have increased the cooling or surface area for the heatsink? and if so, could i get some cpu shims and redo the heatsink installation?
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Old 09-29-02, 01:01 PM   #35
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Given the fact thatthe shim rests on the CPU board and does not contact teh core itself, it will not provide any additional/beneficial surface area for cooling.

The object of using a shim is to provide an even base of uniform height for the heatsink to rest on. In this manner, the heatsink will not shift and the maximum amount of surface area on the heatsink will be contacting the core. ( the heatsink will rest as close to 180* as possible )

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Old 10-05-02, 11:52 AM   #36
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In my mind is the idea that shims will increase heat slightly as they do not allow what little airflow along the sides of the core that would be present when no shim is installed. Well, block it some at least. Also if they do not have the cut-outs for the rubber pads they may well be pushing the hsf away from the core. This is bad. The hsf needs pressure to make up for the lack of contact surface area with the tiny AMD core.
I have a athlon 750 socket A that has every corner chipped, one quite badly. It runs fine and that cool. Funny. It came to me that way, $25 shipped.
Have yet to chip one myself.
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