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Old 11-04-03, 01:04 PM   #1
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Default New nForce drivers: Little Update

A few weeks ago I asked a friend over at nV on when we could expect a new release.
I yesterday contacted him again and he said that the last time he asked the drivers were far from finished.

Now, 3-4 weeks later I highly doubt the drivers are ready to release.
Looks like we will have to wait longer.
Maybe a new release under the virtual christmas tree?
Who knows
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Old 11-04-03, 01:16 PM   #2
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I'm sorry I dont understand what is it that you are waiting for?
nforce-audio drivers suck! Are bassed on oss and will never be better than alsa drivers,
not unless Nvidia decide to write a proper Apu driver. Which is not going to happen!
nvnet is hardly gonna have changed!
Sorry there is nothing to wait for...
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Old 11-04-03, 01:34 PM   #3
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There indeed is a LOT to wait for.
The nvnet component will be optimized and lots of bugs will be fixed.
One of these bugs makes some nForce 1 boards including mine lag like there is no tomorrow whenever ethernet/DSL traffic is going.

And about the audiodrivers: Q3A, NWN etc. all sound and play just fine.
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Old 11-04-03, 04:14 PM   #4
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I think at this rate forcedeth will be in 2.6 kernel by the time it becomes officially released...
I have tried it and it works perfectly as far as I can tell... same goes for nvnet...(Asus A7N8X nforce2)
As far as Nvaudio goes it does not support full-duplex whereas alsa driver does.
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Old 11-04-03, 05:16 PM   #5
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Megatron1983,

How old is your DSL cable modem? There was a problem with NF1 and the BroadCom PHY in their older models of DSL cable modems. Try using a different cable modem and see it the problem goes away.
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Old 11-04-03, 05:26 PM   #6
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It has unfortunaly nothing to do with any DSL or Cable modem, I tried that.
Its a well known bug at nVidia and has to do with the nvnet component.
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Old 11-05-03, 03:33 PM   #7
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there are new OSS drivers now in the latest 2.6.0 test 9 mm2 kernel

http://linuxtoday.com/developer/2003110502926NWKNDV

Just a heads up.

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Old 11-05-03, 08:28 PM   #8
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I am awaiting the nvnet drivers as well... Abit nf7-s v2 (nforce2) it lags my system on any network activity. I have to use the version that came out before; yet use the latest sound drivers becuase of a bug that causes quake to crash for me. As for alsa drivers; i love them but i need to use nvaudio becuase it is the one that works with spdif out in all applications. Alsa drivers only send to spdif out in xmms.
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Old 11-10-03, 10:57 AM   #9
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As best I can tell, the latency and stability problems some people seem to have with nvnet on recent Linux distributions has little to do with the NVIDIA module core, ie. it's not a "bug" in nvnetlib.o. But rather it's a problem with the Linux kernel when it's compiled with GCC 3.x and you use a module that has object files compiled with GCC 2.9 (ie nvnetlib.o). In fact this is a known problem with the Linux kernel and modprobe has code to prevent such a driver from even loading. However rather than distribute two different versions of nvnetlib.o, NVIDIA in their devine wisdom have "bypassed" this protection by using objcopy to remove the GCC 2.9 signature that modprobe looks for.

Using an older Linux distribution that uses GCC 2.9, or using an older version of the nvnet driver (ie. not 261) seems to help.

I know it's not a problem specific to the nvnetlib.o object because I have written a FreeBSD version of the nvnet kernel module that uses the 261 version of nvnetlib.o and my tests have shown that FreeBSD does not seem to be effected by this GCC version mismatch. In fact the 261 driver is noticably faster and much more stable under FreeBSD than it is on my GCC 3.2 based Linux test system (Slackware 9.1).

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Old 11-10-03, 11:12 AM   #10
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Well either nV is lying by saying that its a bug that will be fixed or we are talking about 2 different kinds of "problems".
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Old 11-10-03, 12:36 PM   #11
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running kernel 2.6, the only nvidia nforce2 driver component i use is nvnet,
but i will switch soon to the mm2 included gpl'ed network driver.
audio is waaaay better with alsa than the oss
nvidia one. you can even get multichannel mixing with it.
when running on an a7n8x(dlx) you use the
realtek alc650 audio chip and the drivers
realtek offers for the chip are also the alsa ones.

nv agpgart patch is obsoleted by kernel2.6.
every other component is natively supported.
(running fedora core 1, kernel 2.6)
minus the nvidia grfx cards and the nforce apu (soundstorm) of course

so i would like nvidia to stop building propietary drivers
and supporting the developers by giving them proper hardware specs to work with.
then they can link to some sourceforce projects

hey when so many ex sgi staff works at nvidia, where is the true *nix spirit

...and please put andy m. back on this forum, thnx


update: tried the forcedeth network driver
and it works really sweet. bye bye nvnet

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Old 11-11-03, 04:50 AM   #12
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The Deluxe version does not use the mega crappy realtek codec.
Its using the Soundstorm Audio processor which is something entirely different.
Just looked at the Asus site to make sure.
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