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Old 11-03-03, 07:44 AM   #1
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Default Gates: You don't need perfect software

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"But there are two other techniques: one is called firewalling and the other
is called keeping the software up to date. None of these problems (viruses
and worms) happened to people who did either one of those things. If you had
your firewall set up the right way - and when I say firewall I include
scanning e-mail and scanning file transfer -- you wouldn't have had a
problem. But did we have the tools that made that easy and automatic and that
you could really audit that you had done it? No. Microsoft in particular and
the industry in general didn't have it."

"The second is just the updating thing. Anybody who kept their software up to
date didn't run into any of those problems, because the fixes preceded the
exploit. Now the times between when the vulnerability was published and when
somebody has exploited it, those have been going down, but in every case at
this stage we've had the fix out before the exploit. So next is making it
easy to do the updating, not for general features but just for the very few
critical security things, and then reducing the size of those patches, and
reducing the frequency of the patches, which gets you back to the code
quality issues. We have to bring these things to bear, and the very dramatic
things that we can do in the short term have to do with the firewalls and the
updating infrastructure.
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Old 11-03-03, 01:00 PM   #2
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I JUST GOT MY FIRST TROJAN!!! w00t!!!11

and guess what? I just switched from win98 server to winXP....
then the 30 sec to shoutdown massage...
and this trojan thing is so lame... it makes all .exe files run the infected file instead so you cant start regedit or whatever...

back to the win98 server

I don't know where it came from but I dont think I d/l any apps..
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Old 11-03-03, 01:46 PM   #3
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I JUST GOT MY FIRST TROJAN!!! w00t!!!11

and guess what? I just switched from win98 server to winXP....
then the 30 sec to shoutdown massage...
and this trojan thing is so lame... it makes all .exe files run the infected file instead so you cant start regedit or whatever...

back to the win98 server

I don't know where it came from but I dont think I d/l any apps..
what the hell is Windows 98 Server
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Old 11-03-03, 05:24 PM   #4
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It came bundled with MS-DOS 3.3 advanced server.
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Old 11-03-03, 11:59 PM   #5
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what the hell is Windows 98 Server
I dunno, but I really hope he means NT 4.0
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Old 11-04-03, 02:45 AM   #6
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what the hell is Windows 98 Server
I ment a computer I use as a server with win98 in it.
and I am sorry but there is absolutely no difference in performance.

forgive my nooby terms
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Old 11-04-03, 06:22 AM   #7
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I ment a computer I use as a server with win98 in it.
and I am sorry but there is absolutely no difference in performance.

forgive my nooby terms
LOL! Ok that's different. YEs you can use Win98 as a file server in a small network environment, but good luck in a large business/corporate environment. It doesn't have the stability or capability to handle too many clients attached, or run-from-server applications. What are you using your "server" for besides file sharing?
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Old 11-04-03, 02:15 PM   #8
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Internet Sharing...

I promise to use winNT or better for my future business
and I will not store my work related crap on the network that connected to the net
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*cough* Valve
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Bill Gates is getting more retarded as time goes by. Sure why bother fixing all the stupid exploits they have in their overpriced software, it's our fault all these problems happen right?
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Actually in the case of valve I thought I read somewhere it was a fairly well known outlook express vulnerability that was exploited there to do the theft/damage. If there's been a patch available for weeks and you get hit, it's 90% your responsibility IMO.
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It's partly your fault if you don't update your system. But the fact these expensive pieces of software go out with so many massive holes in them is rediculous.
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