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Old 12-11-03, 01:22 PM   #1
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Default poor performances with a FX5200...

I get really poor performances :

-glxgears:
3722 frames in 5.0 seconds = 744.400 FPS
4471 frames in 5.0 seconds = 894.200 FPS
4486 frames in 5.0 seconds = 897.200 FPS
4514 frames in 5.0 seconds = 902.800 FPS

-neverwinter nights with minimum settings : 23 fps


my system is :
-p4 2.6Ghz
-motherboard ABIT IC7
-1 GB RAM
-ABIT siluro GeForce FX 5200
-Linux Fedora Core 1
-drivers 4496

/etc/X11/XF86config


# XFree86 4 configuration created by redhat-config-xfree86

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "single head configuration"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
FontPath "unix/:7100"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "fbdevhw"
Load "glx"
Load "record"
Load "freetype"
Load "type1"
# Load "dri"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
# Option "Xleds" "1 2 3"
# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
# Option "XkbDisable"
# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
# Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
# Option "XkbModel" "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# or:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
# Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps"
# Or if you just want both to be control, use:
# Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
#
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "it"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then
# this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you
# also use USB mice at the same time.
Identifier "DevInputMice"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "FLATRON 795F"
DisplaySize 330 250
HorizSync 30.0 - 96.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "Videocard vendor"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce FX (generic)"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group 0
Mode 0666
EndSection



/var/log/XFree86.0.log is attached


please HELP
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Old 12-11-03, 06:28 PM   #2
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what does your /proc/drivers/nvidia/agp/status say ?
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Old 12-11-03, 06:42 PM   #3
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Status: Enabled
Driver: NVIDIA
AGP Rate: 8x
Fast Writes: Disabled
SBA: Disabled
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Old 12-12-03, 01:45 PM   #4
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well you could try the 46.20beta drivers. see the 5200 isn't that fast a card to begin with and it is designed to replace the gf4mx cards.
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Old 12-12-03, 02:48 PM   #5
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well you could try the 46.20beta drivers. see the 5200 isn't that fast a card to begin with and it is designed to replace the gf4mx cards.
i know that , but this is too bad...

on my old PC (athlon 1100 +GeForce2 GTS) i used to play NWN full speed with those settings ....

i think i shoud get ~2000 fps with glxgears .... at least
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Old 12-12-03, 03:30 PM   #6
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maybe you have the 64bit version of the mighty fx5200
and the 5200 compares to the gf4 mx440
for example
on my gf2mx400 glxgears gives

glxgears
1531 frames in 5.0 seconds = 306.200 FPS
1886 frames in 5.0 seconds = 377.200 FPS
1860 frames in 5.0 seconds = 372.000 FPS
1864 frames in 5.0 seconds = 372.800 FPS
1880 frames in 5.0 seconds = 376.000 FPS

so in the end you got a better card
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Old 12-12-03, 03:40 PM   #7
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maybe you have the 64bit version of the mighty fx5200
no 128 MB ...


but now things look even more fun: i reinstalled Xfree-MesaGL packege , without changing anything else , and here's what i got:


[filippo@localhost filippo]$ glxgears

Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
4553 frames in 5.0 seconds = 910.600 FPS
4934 frames in 5.0 seconds = 986.800 FPS
4935 frames in 5.0 seconds = 987.000 FPS
4865 frames in 5.0 seconds = 973.000 FPS
4934 frames in 5.0 seconds = 986.800 FPS
4935 frames in 5.0 seconds = 987.000 FPS
[filippo@localhost filippo]$
[filippo@localhost filippo]$ cd NWN/nwn/
[filippo@localhost nwn]$ ./nwn
Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[filippo@localhost nwn]$ glxgears
Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
37767 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7553.400 FPS
45184 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9036.800 FPS
45010 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9002.000 FPS
45122 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9024.400 FPS
45062 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9012.400 FPS


the first time i run glxgears i got little higher performances then i run NWN (wich run almost the same) and then WOW 9000 fps , but the glxgears window is just black and shows nothing...


man this sure looks crazy to me...
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Old 12-12-03, 03:58 PM   #8
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i was asking about the bus of the card ...

it could be interesting if you could run the nvclock utility on the system


http://www.linuxhardware.org/nvclock/


mine results

/nvclock -i

NVClock v0.7

-- General info --
Card: nVidia Geforce 2 MX/MX400
PCI id: 0x110
GPU speed: 182.952 MHz
Bustype: AGP

-- Memory info --
Amount: 64 MB
Type: 128 bit SDR
Speed: 167.838 MHz

-- AGP info --
Status: Enabled
Rate: 4X
AGP rates: 1X 2X 4X
Fast Writes: Disabled
SBA: Unsupported

ps :
played a little with overclocking the card and have broken the 400fps in glx


glxgears
1693 frames in 5.0 seconds = 338.600 FPS
2011 frames in 5.0 seconds = 402.200 FPS
1969 frames in 5.0 seconds = 393.800 FPS

nice tool 4 linux ...
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Old 12-12-03, 04:34 PM   #9
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[filippo@localhost nvclock0.7]$ nvclock -i
NVClock v0.7

-- General info --
Card: nVidia GeforceFX 5200
PCI id: 0x322
GPU speed: 249.750 MHz
Bustype: AGP

-- Memory info --
Amount: 128 MB
Type: 128 bit DDR
Speed: 330.750 MHz

-- AGP info --
Status: Enabled
Rate: 8X
AGP rates: 4X 8X
Fast Writes: Disabled
SBA: Disabled



i just tried glxgears on and "old" PC: athlon 1100 + GeForce2MX 64MB and i score ~700 fps ... i should really get more
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it's 128 bit version
don't know what to say more
maybe you could try the betta drivers
who knows maybe it solves the problem ....
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Old 12-13-03, 08:50 AM   #11
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i just tried the beta drivers but ... nothing changed.

i got some improvements by installing xfree-mesagl and removing the /usr/X11...../tls directory now i score ~1100 at glxgears....

this looks like a problem with the mesagl, but who knows??
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Quote:
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i just tried the beta drivers but ... nothing changed.

i got some improvements by installing xfree-mesagl and removing the /usr/X11...../tls directory now i score ~1100 at glxgears....

this looks like a problem with the mesagl, but who knows??
Well, i did, but i haven't been following the whole ordeal since most users having problems were using alpha or beta versions and in those versions stability and performance problems are to be expected...

Another thing to say here, if you don't feel like you have the time to submit bug reports and turn all logging on, don't use the beta drivers, there is a reason why Nvidias beta drivers are usually worse than others, it's mainly because they don't have any /stable, so the stable drivers are beta and their beta drivers really are alpha...

This is, of course, according to the standards in the open world...

Their releases in the closed world are usually top notch, not strange since they are merely a port of what has ben tried and found true.... (yes i know about the dual port, don't bring it up again)...
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