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Old 10-01-02, 05:30 AM   #13
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They needed to shove out the 40s to prove to people that they were working on something sigificant...they succeded there. When they work, they're wonderful.

When they don't....well thats obvious.

No probs with any 40.s here
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Old 10-01-02, 05:57 AM   #14
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Give it all you need but if they paste in big letters on a press release on their front page stating how great these drivers are, then they are advertising non-beta software.

Btw, just fyi, their press release that they put on the front page says absolutely nothing about them being 'beta'.
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Old 10-01-02, 06:10 AM   #15
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Give it all you need but if they paste in big letters on a press release on their front page stating how great these drivers are, then they are advertising non-beta software.

Btw, just fyi, their press release that they put on the front page says absolutely nothing about them being 'beta'.
The driver page did and still does, so why do I care again?
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Old 10-01-02, 06:16 AM   #16
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of course nvidia is coming up with some PR shadow moves, they have every reason to do so. ATI is on the attack, and so far nvidia has...nothing to counter with

anyway, what SavagePaladin said. the driver download page clearly says that the drivers are beta as well as not being WHQL certified.
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Old 10-01-02, 07:36 AM   #17
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Again, it gives no right to blast ATI for 'shoddy drivers' when Nvidia takes it upon themselves to do the very same thing.

As for the forumm posts, I just love how people are quick to say "That's beta drivers for u" rather than actually try to offer some assistance on getting this infectious disease off of my system.
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Old 10-01-02, 07:48 AM   #18
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I don't see how 'shoddy drivers' and 'shoddy betas' are the same thing...
I'm going to be exiting this thread now....have fun.
I don't like rabid people much.

detonator destroyer should work, if not, how the hell would I know. every computer is different
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Old 10-01-02, 08:28 AM   #19
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funny, i don't think this was a legitimate post asking for questions looking for a serious answer, interesting how the same people always want to start the ati vs nvidia arguement but in different post. lame if you ask me.
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Old 10-01-02, 09:55 AM   #20
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Oh it was....but for the fact that I've gotten a lack of any intelligent and helpful answers, I decided to bring up the fact that immediately upon anyone bringing up such problems with ATI's drivers, any one of these posters would be the first to say "Well ATI has been known for crap drivers." Becase in reality they don't know how to answer.

Btw, if any of you knew, Detonator destroyer is obviously not 40.xx compatible, and there isn't even official XP support.
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Old 10-01-02, 04:10 PM   #21
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Oh it was....but for the fact that I've gotten a lack of any intelligent and helpful answers, I decided to bring up the fact that immediately upon anyone bringing up such problems with ATI's drivers, any one of these posters would be the first to say "Well ATI has been known for crap drivers." Becase in reality they don't know how to answer.

Btw, if any of you knew, Detonator destroyer is obviously not 40.xx compatible, and there isn't even official XP support.
Why did you install BETA drivers then? I myself have used these drivers without one problem thus far. Maybe Im just lucky, or know what Im doing
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Old 10-01-02, 04:55 PM   #22
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Why don't you post your system specs then if you're so concerned with getting help...

heh.

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System specs have absolutely nothing to do with why the drivers are damaging the registry in a way so that older driver sets do not work. Add/Remove 40.71 onee time, watch what happens. The most that is important is that I'm using Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 1 and an Asus video card.

Motherboard bios, chipset drivers(even if they were available) are not important in this scenario.
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But if it's that important that you just absolutely have to know:

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce4 Ti 4200
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device ID: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0253&SUBSYS_803B1043&REV_A2
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 960 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: SyncMaster 905DF(X)/955DF(X), SyncMaster Magic CD195A(P)
Monitor Max Res: 1792,1344
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.13.10.3082 (English)
DDI Version: 8 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/16/2002 12:16:00, 3552826 bytes
Driver Signed: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD:
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 7/16/2002 12:16:00, 981466 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4113-11CF-F97F-31A000C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0253
SubSys ID: 0x803B1043
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result:
D3D7 Test Result:
D3D8 Test Result:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 10/1/2002, 19:00:47
Machine name: MIKE
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp1.020828-1920)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: AMIAMI
System Model: VANCOUVR
BIOS: AMIOEM - 20010419
Processor: Intel Pentium III, ~665MHz
Memory: 384MB RAM
Page File: 145MB used, 765MB available
Primary File System: n/a
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.1 (4.08.01.0810)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.01.2600.1106 32bit Unicode

And now for Rivatuner's output:

$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff Northbridge information
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$0400000000 Description : unknown
$0400000001 Vendor ID : 8086 (Intel)
$0400000002 Device ID : 2501
$0400000003 AGP bus : revision 2.0
$0400000004 AGP status : enabled
$0400000005 AGP rate : 1x 2x 4x supported, 4x selected
$0400000006 AGP SBA : supported, enabled
$0400000007 AGP FW : supported, enabled
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff Display adapter information
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$0000000000 Description : NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
$0000000001 Vendor ID : 10de (NVIDIA)
$0000000002 Device ID : 0253
$0000000003 Location : bus 1, device 0, function 0
$0000000004 Bus type : AGP revision 2.0
$0000000005 AGP status : enabled
$0000000006 AGP rate : 1x 2x 4x supported, 4x selected
$0000000007 AGP SBA : supported, enabled
$0000000008 AGP FW : supported, enabled
$0000000009 Base address 0 : fd000000 (memory range)
$000000000a Base address 1 : d0000000 (memory range)
$000000000b Base address 2 : dc480000 (memory range)
$000000000c Base address 3 : none
$000000000d Base address 4 : none
$000000000e Base address 5 : none
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff NVIDIA specific display adapter information
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$0100000000 Graphics core : NV25 revision A2
$0100000001 Hardwired ID : 0253
$0100000002 Memory bus : 128-bit
$0100000003 Memory type : DDR (RAM configuration 0b)
$0100000004 Memory amount : 131072KB
$0100000005 Core clock : 249.750MHz
$0100000006 Memory clock : 222.750MHz (445.500MHz effective)
$0100000007 Reference clock : 27.000MHz
$0100000008 Maximum Fvco : 900.000MHz
$0100000009 Core PLL Fvco : 499.500MHz
$010000000a Memory PLL Fvco : 445.500MHz
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff NVIDIA graphics processor registers
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$0200000000 NV_PMC_BOOT_0 : 025300a2
$0200001080 NV_PBUS_DEBUG_0 : 00000000
$0200001084 NV_PBUS_DEBUG_1 : 00005749
$0200001088 NV_PBUS_DEBUG_2 : 000211f0
$020000108c NV_PBUS_DEBUG_3 : 000000d1
$02000010b0 NV_PBUS_DEBUG_CTRIM_0 : 00000000
$02000010b4 NV_PBUS_DEBUG_CTRIM_1 : fde00000
$02000010b8 NV_PBUS_DEBUG_CTRIM_2 : f2100000
$02000010bc NV_PBUS_DEBUG_CTRIM_3 : 00000000
$02000010c4 NV_PBUS_DEBUG_CTRIM_4 : 20012001
$02000010c8 NV_PBUS_DEBUG_CTRIM_5 : 000440ff
$02000010cc NV_PBUS_DEBUG_CTRIM_6 : 00000000
$02000010e0 NV_PBUS_DEBUG_PRIV_ASRC : 00000000
$0200100000 NV_PFB_BOOT_0 : 00000000
$0200100080 NV_PFB_DEBUG_0 : e0000000
$0200100200 NV_PFB_CFG : 000f0003
$020010020c NV_PFB_CSTATUS : 08000000
$0200100220 NV_PFB_TIMING0 : 5554900e
$0200100224 NV_PFB_TIMING1 : 02552150
$0200100228 NV_PFB_TIMING2 : 081210bf
$02001002c0 NV_PFB_MRS : 00000032
$02001002c4 NV_PFB_EMRS : 00100002
$0200101000 NV_PEXTDEV_BOOT_0 : 98c471af
$0200680500 NV_PRAMDAC_NVPLL_COEFF : 00012502
$0200680504 NV_PRAMDAC_MPLL_COEFF : 00002102
$020068050c NV_PRAMDAC_PLL_COEFF_SELECT : 10000700
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