5800

RobHague · 01-29-04, 06:06 PM

Yay or ney?

Im on my 3rd NVIDIA GeforceFX 5900 that was not what i ordered. i.e. It said 400/850 or 400/800 and i got a 400/700 card.

I dont trust sites now that have the 5900's listed with 850mhz memory, i cant be doing with yet another return.

I was just looking around and i saw a Leadtek 5800 (non-ultra of course

) for £166! New.

Sounds a good deal, my 5900 cost £187...

How does the 5800 do nowerdays with the 5x.xx series of drivers?

- Ta

01-29-04, 06:07 PM

it's like a 5700U. since most things aren't fill-rate limited, you probably won't see that huge a performance increase compared to a 5700U because of the 128-bit bus.

maybe just order from the States? heh

RobHague · 01-29-04, 06:10 PM

Hmmmm, but i thought the 5700U was 4x1 and the 5800 8x1 (well in NVIDIA's whacky idea of that anyway

). Makes no decent performance difference at all?

Dunno, at least i know what ill be getting.

Another AWFUL trend with 5900's now is the lack of Temperature Monitoring

.

Looks like a 5700U or a 5800 then i guess...

ragejg · 01-29-04, 06:33 PM

ok, not like we trust 'em the most (but they were pretty straightforward tests and scores, you gotta admit), but THG's newest VGA charts do show what a 5800 can do... oh and btw, 5800 non ultra's can almost always clock to ultra levels, so basically look @ the 5800 Ultra scores... I think you'll likey...

01-29-04, 06:34 PM

well, the only game that I can think of off the top of my head that's fillrate (or geometry) limited is Savage. so, no, you probably won't see a huge difference (if one exists at all) between the 5700U and the 5800 because the bandwidth is the same.

anzak · 01-29-04, 06:39 PM

Here http://www.compuplus.com/insidepage....tag&id=1001829 comp-u-plus has the BFG 5900NU for $166

Makes me wish my notebook docking station had an AGP slot.

Ruined · 01-29-04, 07:50 PM

I have not heard a 5800 (ultra or non-ultra) that is not irritatingly loud, especially when idle. The 5900NU 400/700 isn't noticably slower than the 400/850 model, you might as well just stick with it. The 5900NU will toast the 5800 on DX9 games and if you use AA/AF.

ragejg · 01-29-04, 07:56 PM

probably true...

zakelwe · 01-30-04, 08:14 AM

Gainward FX 5900 Ultra/1200 XP 128M Golden Sample
Product Code : 4981
GPU : GeForce FX 5900

http://www.gainward.co.uk/products/F...00/product.htm

Core-Clock/
Memory-Clock : 400/850

Enhanced
Core-Clock/
Memory Clock : 440/900

I think I mentioned this before

My own expensive 5800 ( remember it from a couple of months back? )_ is still in one piece and not modded and is doing well in games at 450/1000. Definitely qucker in halo than the 5700U. Does 6500 in 3dmark03 and 20k in 2001 with terribly reduced LOD levels ( imagine a Volari on a good day ).

£166 sounds a good buy, shame we have to pay so much extra over the USA.

Regards

Andy

digitalwanderer · 01-30-04, 08:39 AM

Mmmmmm. I love the Gainward golden sample line, they just overclock like mad!

(I'm being serious, I really like Gainward and have had superiour experiences with their cards.

)

RobHague · 01-30-04, 09:03 AM

Come accross this today...

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=52368

Quote:

Creative Labs 3D Blaster 5 FX5900 8x AGP DirectX v9.0 128MB DDR nVidia NV25 Chip 450MHz Core TV-Out DVI and MPEG-2 Decoding AGP

Hmmmmmmm, NV25?? 450Mhz Core?? Then the product information states...

Quote:

The 128MB of 700MHz RAM works with a 256-bit core running at 400MHz

Don't online stores just really p*ss u off sometimes

.

marqmajere · 01-30-04, 09:06 AM

Just buy a BFG and be done with it.

01-29-04, 06:06 PM	#1
RobHague I like cheese. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 904	5800 Yay or ney? Im on my 3rd NVIDIA GeforceFX 5900 that was not what i ordered. i.e. It said 400/850 or 400/800 and i got a 400/700 card. I dont trust sites now that have the 5900's listed with 850mhz memory, i cant be doing with yet another return. I was just looking around and i saw a Leadtek 5800 (non-ultra of course ) for £166! New. Sounds a good deal, my 5900 cost £187... How does the 5800 do nowerdays with the 5x.xx series of drivers? - Ta __________________ There used to be a signature here, but now there isnt.

01-29-04, 06:10 PM	#3
RobHague I like cheese. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 904	Hmmmm, but i thought the 5700U was 4x1 and the 5800 8x1 (well in NVIDIA's whacky idea of that anyway ). Makes no decent performance difference at all? Dunno, at least i know what ill be getting. Another AWFUL trend with 5900's now is the lack of Temperature Monitoring . Looks like a 5700U or a 5800 then i guess... __________________ There used to be a signature here, but now there isnt. Last edited by RobHague; 01-29-04 at 06:20 PM.

01-29-04, 06:33 PM	#4
ragejg nV News Alumni Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finger Lakes of Hell, NY Posts: 5,399	... ok, not like we trust 'em the most (but they were pretty straightforward tests and scores, you gotta admit), but THG's newest VGA charts do show what a 5800 can do... oh and btw, 5800 non ultra's can almost always clock to ultra levels, so basically look @ the 5800 Ultra scores... I think you'll likey... __________________ 2010-2011 Reviews: GTX 570 \| GTX 580 \| GTS 450 \| GTX 460 \| GTX 465 Pre-2010 Reviews: 6600 GT \| XMS 4400 DDR \| SilenX Cooler \| 6800 \| 5900 XT \| Personal Cinema \| 5900 NU ______________________________________________ Phenom II x6 1090t @ 4.0 ghz \| Asus M498TD-EVO Am3 SLI nForce 980a \| 2x EVGA GTX 560 SLI \| 2x4gb DDR3-1333 \| Antec EarthWatts EA650 PSU \| 60gb Mushkin Calisto Enhanced Sandforce SSD \| 2x WD2500KS RAID 0 \| Sunbeam Tuniq 3 case \| 24" Asus 19x10 LED LCD \| 26" Panasonic 720p TV \| Sidewinder X5 mouse \| Logitech MX5500 & Revolution mouse \| Altec Lansing 5.1 THX-Certified audio \| Win 7 Ultimate \| desk \| couch "Stars must die so that I may live. I... stepped out of a Supernova."

01-29-04, 07:50 PM	#7
Ruined Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,447	I have not heard a 5800 (ultra or non-ultra) that is not irritatingly loud, especially when idle. The 5900NU 400/700 isn't noticably slower than the 400/850 model, you might as well just stick with it. The 5900NU will toast the 5800 on DX9 games and if you use AA/AF. __________________ We're all in it together. Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.66GHz CPU \| Intel G965WH mobo \| 8GB (4x2GB) DDR2-667mhz CAS5 RAM (1066MHz FSB) \| BFG GeForce 285 GTX OC 1GB \| Dell E228WFP 22" DVI-HDCP LCD Monitor \| 1TB Western Digital RE3 SATA2 Main Drive \| 500GBx2 Western Digital RE3 SATA2 Scratch Drives in RAID0 \| Western Digital RE3 1TB SATA2 Media Drive \| External 2TB Western Digital MyBook Backup Drive \| Adaptec eSATA 3.0gbps PCI-E interface \| Sandisk External 12-in-1 Flash Card Reader \| LG GGC-H20L HD DVD/BD reader, DVD writer \| LG GGW-H20L HD DVD/BD reader, DVD/BD writer \| Microsoft E4000 Ergonomic Keyboard \| Logitech Trackman Wheel \| Antec P182 ATX Case \| Thermaltake ToughPower XT 850w modular PSU \| KRK RP-8 Rokit Studio Monitors \| Windows Vista Ultimate x64

01-29-04, 07:56 PM	#8
ragejg nV News Alumni Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finger Lakes of Hell, NY Posts: 5,399	... probably true... __________________ 2010-2011 Reviews: GTX 570 \| GTX 580 \| GTS 450 \| GTX 460 \| GTX 465 Pre-2010 Reviews: 6600 GT \| XMS 4400 DDR \| SilenX Cooler \| 6800 \| 5900 XT \| Personal Cinema \| 5900 NU ______________________________________________ Phenom II x6 1090t @ 4.0 ghz \| Asus M498TD-EVO Am3 SLI nForce 980a \| 2x EVGA GTX 560 SLI \| 2x4gb DDR3-1333 \| Antec EarthWatts EA650 PSU \| 60gb Mushkin Calisto Enhanced Sandforce SSD \| 2x WD2500KS RAID 0 \| Sunbeam Tuniq 3 case \| 24" Asus 19x10 LED LCD \| 26" Panasonic 720p TV \| Sidewinder X5 mouse \| Logitech MX5500 & Revolution mouse \| Altec Lansing 5.1 THX-Certified audio \| Win 7 Ultimate \| desk \| couch "Stars must die so that I may live. I... stepped out of a Supernova."

01-29-04, 06:07 PM	#2
The Baron Guest Posts: n/a	it's like a 5700U. since most things aren't fill-rate limited, you probably won't see that huge a performance increase compared to a 5700U because of the 128-bit bus. maybe just order from the States? heh

01-29-04, 06:34 PM	#5
The Baron Guest Posts: n/a	well, the only game that I can think of off the top of my head that's fillrate (or geometry) limited is Savage. so, no, you probably won't see a huge difference (if one exists at all) between the 5700U and the 5800 because the bandwidth is the same.

01-29-04, 06:39 PM	#6
anzak Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,553	Here http://www.compuplus.com/insidepage....tag&id=1001829 comp-u-plus has the BFG 5900NU for $166 Makes me wish my notebook docking station had an AGP slot.

01-30-04, 08:14 AM	#9
zakelwe Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 768	Gainward FX 5900 Ultra/1200 XP 128M Golden Sample Product Code : 4981 GPU : GeForce FX 5900 http://www.gainward.co.uk/products/F...00/product.htm Core-Clock/ Memory-Clock : 400/850 Enhanced Core-Clock/ Memory Clock : 440/900 I think I mentioned this before My own expensive 5800 ( remember it from a couple of months back? )_ is still in one piece and not modded and is doing well in games at 450/1000. Definitely qucker in halo than the 5700U. Does 6500 in 3dmark03 and 20k in 2001 with terribly reduced LOD levels ( imagine a Volari on a good day ). £166 sounds a good buy, shame we have to pay so much extra over the USA. Regards Andy

01-30-04, 08:39 AM	#10
digitalwanderer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 4,944	Mmmmmm. I love the Gainward golden sample line, they just overclock like mad! (I'm being serious, I really like Gainward and have had superiour experiences with their cards. ) __________________ [SIZE=1][I]"It was very important to us that NVIDIA did not know exactly where to aim. As a result they seem to have over-engineered in some aspects creating a power-hungry monster which is going to be very expensive for them to manufacture. We have a beautifully balanced piece of hardware that beats them on pure performance, cost, scalability, future mobile relevance, etc. That's all because they didn't know what to aim at." -R.Huddy[/I] [/SIZE]

01-30-04, 09:06 AM	#12
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