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Old 01-30-04, 09:07 AM   #13
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Just buy a BFG and be done with it.
Show me a UK supplier and i will gladley.
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Old 01-30-04, 10:13 AM   #14
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Ok, the store accepted the reason for return and are going to collect it from me when i arrange it.

Basically i need a new card now....

So i browsed through their site and saw,
AOpen Aeolus FX5900-DV128.

Now it was 140! And i was thinking.... whats the catch.....
I took a quick look around the web and it seems to be a fully fledged 5900. It certainly mentions no where its an XT... the store did say "obsoleted product" (they have 50 in stock though) when it was going through the system. Maybe im lucky and bagged the few remaining 'real' 5900's.

To that fact, the stores i bougth it has Aopen Aeolus 5900XT graphics cards for sale, with a completley different manufactuers code... its also about 7 more! :S

I will wait and see when it comes, if its another 'dud' ill just return it and call it a failure - get a 5700ultra as cheap as i can. On the other hand if it does arrive and its 400/700 then i guess its not *too* bad as its like 40 less than i paid for the XFX... I will see.

This is what im *supposed* to have ordered...
http://english.aopen.com.tw/products...5900-DV128.htm
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Old 01-30-04, 10:18 AM   #15
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There's a Gainward FX5900 at Komplett for 158, which looks like a 400/800 model if you Google it.

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?a...rpID=1&cks=PRL
(If that link doesn't work, just stick "FX5900" in the search box).

Some other places have the same card for well over 200...
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Old 01-30-04, 10:56 AM   #16
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...I was just looking around and i saw a Leadtek 5800 (non-ultra of course ) for 166! New...
Don't do it! Donot buy an FX5800, they are pretty much considered a failed product. They are overly noisy, and under powered. You are far better off with a FX5700U or FX5900SE (even at 700mhz memory!)
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Old 01-30-04, 12:44 PM   #17
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Even if you get yet another 5900SE/XT, there is absolutely no reason why you should return that and get the lesser 5700 Ultra. The 256-bit memory bus on the 5900 will make a world of difference, even though the SE has slightly lower clock speeds. I had a 5700 Ultra and a 5900 and the latter was superior in every way, shape and form, even in SE form.
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Old 01-30-04, 02:06 PM   #18
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Even if you get yet another 5900SE/XT, there is absolutely no reason why you should return that and get the lesser 5700 Ultra. The 256-bit memory bus on the 5900 will make a world of difference, even though the SE has slightly lower clock speeds. I had a 5700 Ultra and a 5900 and the latter was superior in every way, shape and form, even in SE form.
Yeah it was money i was thinking of, it would be cheaper. Then i could just wait and see what arrived.

But i will most likley keep it, as long as the card has decent cooling.
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Old 01-30-04, 06:15 PM   #19
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ok, not like we trust 'em the most (but they were pretty straightforward tests and scores, you gotta admit), but THG's newest VGA charts do show what a 5800 can do... oh and btw, 5800 non ultra's can almost always clock to ultra levels, so basically look @ the 5800 Ultra scores... I think you'll likey...

My 5800ultra run at 590/1160 rock stable.
Can the non reach those speeds??
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Old 01-30-04, 06:18 PM   #20
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My 5800ultra run at 590/1160 rock stable.
Can the non reach those speeds??
Brave man lol, when i got my 5800U a while back it was like 420! No way in hell was i going to go near any clock slider bars hehehehe
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Old 01-30-04, 06:31 PM   #21
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A 5800 of any variety will be faster than a 5700U. It has twice the fill-rate...
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at this point, I don't think that 5800 non-ultra's deserve at all to be ridiculed or called "bad deals"...

I think of them as vidcards that sit right between 5700U and 5900SE performance and sit right @ or under 5900SE price...

Best execution of a 128 bit memory interface equipped card. Period.

When 5800' sstart consistently hitting $150-$160, they will be scarfed up like Lardass' pies in Stand By Me...
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Old 01-31-04, 09:34 AM   #23
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My 5800ultra run at 590/1160 rock stable.
Can the non reach those speeds??

No my 5900nu can't reach those speeds and doesn't have to because the 256 bit memory bus more than makes up for it. Although the 5900 is no slouch in the overclocking department either. I've said it before.. i'll take a wider memory bus over faster memory. This point was made very clear when the 5800Ultra went up against the 9700Pro a year ago and beat by the lower clocked 9700Pro.

I do think for a 128 bit card the 5800 is a monster though and got a unusually bad wrap. Most of it because of the dustbuster sitting on it, which was loud. But Nvidia should have designed it with a 256 bit bus from the start. They had to clock the 5800 so high out of the box because they knew they would have to compete with the 9700Pro's 256 bit memory bus.


Either way anybody looking to buy an Nvidia card now should go for a NV35 or up core.

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Old 01-31-04, 09:09 PM   #24
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Well, in any case, you guys here are all on the right track with an nVidia card .
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