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Old 09-26-02, 03:00 PM   #1
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Default Faster NV28/NV18 coming - but when?

Hello everyone,

nv4_disp.inf is giving us some interesting information.

Here's a part of the name list:

NVidia.Nv17.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 460"
NVidia.Nv17.2 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440"
NVidia.Nv17.3 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420"
NVidia.Nv17GL.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 500/550 XGL"
NVidia.Nv17GL.2 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 200/400 NVS"
NVidia.Nv18.2 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X"
NVidia.Nv18.3 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8X"
NVidia.Nv20 = "NVIDIA GeForce3"
NVidia.Nv20.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200"
NVidia.Nv20.2 = "NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500"
NVidia.Nv20DCC = "NVIDIA Quadro DCC"
NVidia.Nv25.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600"
NVidia.Nv25.2 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400"
NVidia.Nv25.3 = "NVIDIA NV25"
NVidia.Nv25.4 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200"
NVidia.Nv25GL.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 900 XGL"
NVidia.Nv25GL.2 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 750 XGL"
NVidia.Nv25GL.4 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 700 XGL"
NVidia.Nv28.2 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X"


Noticed anything?
.1 products are the fastest ones and the higher the number after the . is, the slower the core/memory.
So, let's look at the NV18/NV28 now, shall we?
NV18.1 and NV28.1 do not seem to exist.

Now, this pretty much proofs that faster NV18/NV28 will exist at a time or another. Maybe they'll be announced at the same time as the NV30, or maybe before. No one knows for sure.

However, one thing is really making me wonder...
According to that file, the MX440 is not the fastest NV18 card.
But according to an older 31.00 disp file, it was the fastest and MX420 with AGP8X did exist.

So, would nVidia have cancelled a product in last minute? Maybe the RV250 really took them by surprises or maybe one of the two disp files was bugged and nothing was cancelled.


Anyway, even if this isn't very important information, i still think it's worth mentionning.


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Old 09-26-02, 04:05 PM   #2
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that really doesn't prove anything. look at the GeForce 3 Ti line, it doesn't follow the pattern.

although i agree, i'm sure nvidia will have a 4600(+) with 8x AGP sooner or later. but who's to say it won't be out along with NV30 or something(ie too late for most of us to care)
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Numbers .0 .1 .2 .3 .4 doesn't show who is faster they show what product was released first


NVidia.Nv20 = "NVIDIA GeForce3" <--------- first GF3
NVidia.Nv20.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200" <---- second cheap version
NVidia.Nv20.2 = "NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500" <---- third buffed up GF3



same goes with GF4


NVidia.Nv25.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600" <-- original first GF4
NVidia.Nv25.2 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400" <-- then came all lower parts
NVidia.Nv25.3 = "NVIDIA NV25"
NVidia.Nv25.4 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200"


offcourse some of them haven't seen day light in our market yet
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Numbers .0 .1 .2 .3 .4 doesn't show who is faster they show what product was released first
that seems correct
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NVidia.Nv20 = "NVIDIA GeForce3"
NVidia.Nv20.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200"
NVidia.Nv20.2 = "NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500"

Well, i don't see the problem with that. At first, nVidia thinked they would release only ONE NV20 based GPU. Then they decided to release two more. So they didn't have the . in the original product.
Or anyway, that's my understanding - could be wrong.

NVidia.Nv25.3 = "NVIDIA NV25"

Well, there are two possibilities here...
1. This is a card nV planned in case ATI would release a 8500 refresh.
2. This was some type paradox, planned to have good memory and low clocks or something. And then they realized " Hey, we're gonna get flamed for this! "

Or maybe nVidia just wants to make people lose their time looking at it.

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Or maybe nVidia just wants to make people lose their time looking at it.
My money's on this one.
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I think they stuck with updating the budget cards this time around, cause I doubt they're (still) able to change the 4600 speeds all that much...
slapping 8X on something doesn't impress many people
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i'll bet a lot of people look at AGP 8x and say "wow, it doubles AGP 4x." i mean honestly, we've had quite a few of them in these forums posting about how great 8x AGP would be and asking when cards with the interface would be available.
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I think they stuck with updating the budget cards this time around, cause I doubt they're (still) able to change the 4600 speeds all that much...
slapping 8X on something doesn't impress many people
I think you'll find that sadly it does impress more people than it should.

It'll certainly impress the crowd who think their 3GHz P4 with 128MB RAM and 40GB disc space is a top-end machine.
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Fine then...many intelligent people.

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ROTFLMAO there isn't much if any diff (speed wise in games that don't use too mcuh texture memory) between AGP 1x and 2X or 4x or 8X
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ROTFLMAO there isn't much if any diff (speed wise in games that don't use too mcuh texture memory) between AGP 1x and 2X or 4x or 8X
better than no increase at all...why laugh free performance in the face?

the difference between 1x and 2x is a few %, but after that, there's not much of a measurable increase, true.
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