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Old 07-28-02, 11:05 AM   #1
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Thumbs up The King Is Dead.Long Live The King!

Looks like ATI has a winner.Let's just hope they don't under clock the core,or screw up the drivers.
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Old 07-28-02, 11:43 AM   #2
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I agree that r300 is REALLY impressive

but if nv30 is anything like looks to be, the reign of ATI will be short

kinda sucks
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Old 07-28-02, 02:53 PM   #3
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ya the ati card is curtanly a winner i hope nv30 is every thing nvidia is claiming it to be. mygawd 4x fsaa no perf hits i drool at the thought
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Old 07-28-02, 04:23 PM   #4
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but at which cost
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Old 07-28-02, 06:23 PM   #5
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The Radeon 9700 will be alot cheaper than the NV30(when the NV30 is out), but not as fast. I think it will be like the Radeon 8500 was the to Geforce4 TI. I think that people won't be dumb asses and buy the fastest card this time around. Hopefully they'll be reasonable and buy a Radeon 9700.

Where 3D Mark 2002 by the way, or hell 2003?
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Old 07-28-02, 06:33 PM   #6
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Originally posted by ATI LoVeR 9700
The Radeon 9700 will be alot cheaper than the NV30(when the NV30 is out), but not as fast. I think it will be like the Radeon 8500 was the to Geforce4 TI. I think that people won't be dumb asses and buy the fastest card this time around. Hopefully they'll be reasonable and buy a Radeon 9700.

Where 3D Mark 2002 by the way, or hell 2003?
I think 2001SE probably was their 2002 version.

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Also, people who bought a GF4 are no more stupid than a person who buys a 9700. They wanted the best hardware available at the time, and that's what it was. It's the same way with R300 (9700), NV30 will be released soon after the R300, and should outperform it. Therefore, following your logic, any person who buys a 9700 is a "dumbass".

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Old 07-28-02, 06:43 PM   #7
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I dont rely on those benchmark results anymore... 3dmark=biased trash.
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Old 07-28-02, 07:26 PM   #8
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I'm really considering the 9700 for my next video card. I have had my good 'ol Geforce 3 for almost a year now, but it seems a little crippled in some newer games . Having owned a Radeon 32DDR prior to the GF3, I won't hesitate to go back to the ATI camp.
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Old 07-28-02, 07:44 PM   #9
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Originally posted by ATI LoVeR 9700
The Radeon 9700 will be alot cheaper than the NV30(when the NV30 is out), but not as fast. I think it will be like the Radeon 8500 was the to Geforce4 TI. I think that people won't be dumb asses and buy the fastest card this time around. Hopefully they'll be reasonable and buy a Radeon 9700.
If this ends up being the case (9700 substantially cheaper, like $100 than NV30) and if NV30's features don't warrant the extra expense, it would be a no-brainer to get the 9700.
I can't wait for some real reviews of the 9700, complete with image quality comparisons, I really want to see what ATI's jittered AA and AF looks like.
Of course I'm equally excited to see the same with the NV30......

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Old 07-28-02, 08:14 PM   #10
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With the R9700 coming out (according to Best Buy) almost mid-Sept, there is not going to be enough lead-time for ATi to drop their prices like they have been doing to the R8500 to keep it competitive.

I think there MAY be a $50 difference between the 2, but that's just my guess (idly enough, I'm rarely wrong, I have no idea why either???)...ATi usually has a good price/performance ratio (after the drivers were basically fixed).
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Old 07-28-02, 09:17 PM   #11
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there's a new 3dmark for each version of DX.
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I think that everything depends upon whether the nv30 uses a 256bit bus or not. If it doesnt then clock speed and features are going to mean the difference.
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