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Old 10-07-02, 04:34 PM   #13
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Uhh... so you want him to review things that have been proven to be biased towards nvidia?
Why not? This is the first product from ATI that clearly trounces anything NVIDIA has to offer so why not show how ATI can stick it to their rivals by running a test faster on its hardware than on the hardware it was designed for?
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Old 10-07-02, 04:48 PM   #14
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Actually, I wouldn't object to 3DMark if it was done in the general format I outlined: increase settings on the 9700 (AF/AA/res) until you get the same score as a comparable system with another card (perhaps one setting just upping the res, another adding AF and AA at default resolution). Using the screenshots from the pro version, that would make a very nice IQ comparison... what you get with each card IQ-wise at the same performance level.
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Old 10-08-02, 10:49 AM   #15
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one of the other concerns is heat. put it in an average modern box (higher end p4 and higher end amd, 512mb ddr, 80 gig hdd, stock cooling, etc.) and measure the temp under light, medium and heavy loads.

benchmarks - try newer games like Warcraft3, UT2k3, Morrow Wind, etc instead of the same old boring benchmarks from what seem like the prior millenia.

image quality comparison - wasn't there some comparison of the matrox parahelia that had numeric comparisons of accepted values of 2d (and 3d?) quality? Is the 9700 any more accurate in its rendering of a scene (gf3 was more accurate per pixel than 8500 but more people preferred the overall look of the 8500... but not if you're a 3d artist perhaps).
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Old 10-08-02, 11:07 AM   #16
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I think I'll try to use the Pro version of 3dMark to use the "Image Quality Test" for each card. Posting them side by side, the differences shoudl be clearly illustrated...
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Old 10-08-02, 11:23 AM   #17
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Please no Quake 3 benchmarks, it's so old skewl now
Are you going to use WHQL drivers for nvidia card?
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Old 10-08-02, 11:26 AM   #18
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I'm thinking of using 2 driver sets for the NVIDIA card...one WHQL driver and one Beta....

That should cover all the bases...

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the use both the 7.76 and 7.77 Ati drivers.
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Old 10-08-02, 04:11 PM   #20
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Why not? This is the first product from ATI that clearly trounces anything NVIDIA has to offer so why not show how ATI can stick it to their rivals by running a test faster on its hardware than on the hardware it was designed for?

Why not test New World Order. I hear that game is designed around the 8500 so that would show both benchmarks favoring ATI and benchmarks favoring Nvidia
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Old 10-09-02, 03:08 PM   #21
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What? Nobody plays free cell?????


I would like to see what the king does with full AA and full AF @ 1600 with flight sims. Preferably IL-2 patched and MSFS.


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Old 10-09-02, 03:18 PM   #22
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I'm tempted to just pick games randomly...

I'd love to get NOLF2 in there.....great game.....

In addition...I might spice things up with a few "different" titles like Madden2003 ( there is a great example of the benefits of Aniso Filtering when looking down the field ).
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Old 10-10-02, 03:23 AM   #23
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Well I myself have lost interest in radeon 9700pro reviews.Seen a million of them.I'd be interested in a radeon 9500pro review though!!
Radeon 9700pro costs around 500euros here in europe and I just think it's way too much money for a graphics card.
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Just curious but i would love to see some real world benchmarks in games when things are left running like messangers, virus scanners, firewalls, and the general utilities that people use on an everyday basis. I hate the fact that no benchmarks are done in a real setting such as that. Its like everyone presumes that if we are going to play a game we take a couple mins before that to stop everything just for a few fps. The other thing is to include reviews of the tv out features and video capabilities other than the 3d graphics and not just the mention that they are there and if they work they work. Image quality of them and so on and so forth like DVD quality and comparison as well.
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