GeForce4 owners: Please post your TV encoder and board information

07-31-02, 09:27 PM

Folks,

I've been trying to identify the GeForce4 boards(s) with the highest quality S-Video TV output. The work I've done to date has been on RedHat Linux 7.3 with the 4.2.0 XFree86 and nVidia drivers/GLX version 1.0-2960. So far, I've tried 3 different boards from 3 different manufacturers and gotten widely varying results. Each of the boards appears to have a different TV Encoder chip and I'm betting boards with the same encoder chips will have similar output qualities.

So far, the best quality I've seen (In my opinion) has come from a GeForce4 MX420 with what would appear to be only the integrated nVidia TV Encoder. The other encoders I've seen are a Philips and a Brooktree; however, my opinion is that the boards I have with these chipsets don't seem to put out imagery that is as sharp and readable (Actually, I was only able to get composite out of the Brooktree for some reason, so I'm really not sure about its S-Video Quality). In short, I'm really impressed with the quality of the NVIDIA TV Encoder based board over the others I've seen to date. To this end, I'm really interested in determining which TV Encoder each manufacturer has put on each of their boards. I know the Philips and Brooktree encoders are supposed to have more capability for the HDTV crowd; however, I'm not interested in HDTV! Since this encoder information doesn't appear to be readily available from all the manufacturers, I'd appreciate a hand from other GeForce4 owners.

If anyone knows of a URL charting manufacturer, board, and TV Encoder information, I'd appreciate knowing what the URL is; otherwise, I'd appreciate hearing from other GeForce4 owners about their board manufacturer, model, TV Encoder Info, and board TV connector information. I'm not sure where to look on the Windows OS for this information, but for the Linux users this information may be found in the /var/log/XFree86.0.log file. The particular line of interest is something to the effect of "TV Encoder detected" followed by the encoder manufacturer and/or model information. Thanks in advance for helping sort through the various manufacturer, model, TV Encoder, connector combinations!

Thanks,
ScuzziOne

SurfMonkey · 08-01-02, 05:54 AM

As far as I know, my Creative Ti4400 has a Philips encoder chip onboard.

monkeydust · 08-01-02, 06:07 AM

TVTool did a report a little while back comparing the quality of the TV out quality of the various Geforce TV chips being used today.

Check it out at - http://www.tvtool.info/go.htm?http:/.../tvchips_e.htm

**Raptorman** · 08-01-02, 11:17 AM

VisionTek GeForce 4 Ti-4600 - a Philips 7108

TV In/Out. Good quality

Gehenna_CA · 08-01-02, 05:43 PM

Visiontek Gf4 Ti4400 TV out only- Conexant CX25871
Pretty good TVout quality and achieves higher resolutions than my old Radeon 64mb Vivo.

Gator · 08-01-02, 09:43 PM

Gainward GF4 TI4400 VIVO = Philips 7108

no major complaints here

ZenmasteR · 08-02-02, 05:57 AM

my CL 4600 has the Conexant CX25871 tvou chip
supposedly the best TV-out chip (according to tv tool site)
and is used in the xbox

NeoGeo · 08-04-02, 06:47 PM

Philips 7102 on my Gainward Geforce 4 ti 4200 with tv out and dvi, no tv in... its pretty poor, my old GF2 Ti had better TV out...

NeoGeo · 08-04-02, 06:55 PM

oh crap... i anoyed my graphics card sayin that! i jus had my first windows xp BSOD jus outta the blue

down to nv4_disp.dll

*tries to cheer up graphics card* "nice gainward... niceee gainward

07-31-02, 09:27 PM	#1
ScuzziOne Guest Posts: n/a	GeForce4 Owners: Need your TV Encoder & Board Info... please! Folks, I've been trying to identify the GeForce4 boards(s) with the highest quality S-Video TV output. The work I've done to date has been on RedHat Linux 7.3 with the 4.2.0 XFree86 and nVidia drivers/GLX version 1.0-2960. So far, I've tried 3 different boards from 3 different manufacturers and gotten widely varying results. Each of the boards appears to have a different TV Encoder chip and I'm betting boards with the same encoder chips will have similar output qualities. So far, the best quality I've seen (In my opinion) has come from a GeForce4 MX420 with what would appear to be only the integrated nVidia TV Encoder. The other encoders I've seen are a Philips and a Brooktree; however, my opinion is that the boards I have with these chipsets don't seem to put out imagery that is as sharp and readable (Actually, I was only able to get composite out of the Brooktree for some reason, so I'm really not sure about its S-Video Quality). In short, I'm really impressed with the quality of the NVIDIA TV Encoder based board over the others I've seen to date. To this end, I'm really interested in determining which TV Encoder each manufacturer has put on each of their boards. I know the Philips and Brooktree encoders are supposed to have more capability for the HDTV crowd; however, I'm not interested in HDTV! Since this encoder information doesn't appear to be readily available from all the manufacturers, I'd appreciate a hand from other GeForce4 owners. If anyone knows of a URL charting manufacturer, board, and TV Encoder information, I'd appreciate knowing what the URL is; otherwise, I'd appreciate hearing from other GeForce4 owners about their board manufacturer, model, TV Encoder Info, and board TV connector information. I'm not sure where to look on the Windows OS for this information, but for the Linux users this information may be found in the /var/log/XFree86.0.log file. The particular line of interest is something to the effect of "TV Encoder detected" followed by the encoder manufacturer and/or model information. Thanks in advance for helping sort through the various manufacturer, model, TV Encoder, connector combinations! Thanks, ScuzziOne

08-01-02, 05:54 AM	#2
SurfMonkey QuadCore G80 PS3 Overload Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a small room surrounded by vast, inscrutable, machines... Posts: 491	As far as I know, my Creative Ti4400 has a Philips encoder chip onboard. __________________ Folding for Beyond3D "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." Sir Winston Churchill "Halflife2 got halfway around the world before Gabe had a chance to get his pants on." Anon

08-01-02, 06:07 AM	#3
monkeydust Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 495	TVTool did a report a little while back comparing the quality of the TV out quality of the various Geforce TV chips being used today. Check it out at - http://www.tvtool.info/go.htm?http:/.../tvchips_e.htm __________________ AMD X2 4800+ ASUS A8N-SLI 2 x 1GB OCZ PC3200 Platinum eVGA 8800 GTS 620/1000 2 x 300gb Maxtor Maxline III SATA2 HD Creative X-Fi / Logitech Z-5500 NEC 16X Double Layer DVD±RW Drive Lian-Li v1200 w/OCZ Powerstream 600w PSU Dell 2001FP 20.1" LCD 3DMark06 - 8553

08-01-02, 11:17 AM	#4
Raptorman Former Marine Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Jonesville, VA Posts: 783	VisionTek GeForce 4 Ti-4600 - a Philips 7108 TV In/Out. Good quality __________________ Southern Motorsports - My Shop Southern Motorsports Facebook Formerly Serving The U.S. Marine Corps Not As Mean, Not As Lean, But Still A Marine 0331 Ramadi 2006, 22 MEU 2007 3rd Battalion 8th Marines WPNS CO "Marines I see as two breeds, Rottweilers or Dobermans, because Marines come in two varieties, big and mean, or skinny and mean. They're aggressive on the attack and tenacious on defense. They've got really short hair and they always go for the throat." RAdm. "Jay" R. Stark, USN; 10 November 1995

08-01-02, 05:43 PM	#5
Gehenna_CA Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Regina, SK, CA Posts: 53	Visiontek Gf4 Ti4400 TV out only- Conexant CX25871 Pretty good TVout quality and achieves higher resolutions than my old Radeon 64mb Vivo. __________________ Gehenna_CA, Stormtrooper of the Doomed AthlonXP 1.67@1.81ghz with Swiftech MC462 Asus A7M with 768mb DDR333 Ram Visiontek Geforce4 Ti4400@305/650 Pioneer Slotload 16x DVD-Rom Optowrite 40x12x40 CDRW 20gig 7200rpm ATA100 HD, Philips A.E. 19" Daytek Perfect Flat, Inspire 5300s WinXP PRO/w SP1

08-01-02, 09:43 PM	#6
Gator Unreal Tournament Gamer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 2,279	Gainward GF4 TI4400 VIVO = Philips 7108 no major complaints here __________________ Athlon64 3200 Clawhammer / Asus K8N-E Deluxe / 1GB Crucial DDR400 / Geforce 6600GT 128MB AGP / Windows XP Pro

08-02-02, 05:57 AM	#7
ZenmasteR Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 30	my CL 4600 has the Conexant CX25871 tvou chip supposedly the best TV-out chip (according to tv tool site) and is used in the xbox

08-04-02, 06:47 PM	#8
NeoGeo Geforce 4 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: South Coast, England, UK Posts: 146	Philips 7102 on my Gainward Geforce 4 ti 4200 with tv out and dvi, no tv in... its pretty poor, my old GF2 Ti had better TV out... __________________ AthlonXP 2500 Barton MSI K7N2 Delta (MS-6570) Nvidia Geforce FX 5600 128MB VIVO 512MB (2x 256MB) Crucial PC2700 2x 120GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 8MB 16x DVD 52x/24x/52x Lite-On CD-ReWriter 550 watt Q-Tech PSU Superflower silver case T1 Internet Connection AOC 17" 7Klr MS Keyboard+Mouse

08-04-02, 06:55 PM	#9
NeoGeo Geforce 4 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: South Coast, England, UK Posts: 146	oh crap... i anoyed my graphics card sayin that! i jus had my first windows xp BSOD jus outta the blue down to nv4_disp.dll tries to cheer up graphics card "nice gainward... niceee gainward __________________ AthlonXP 2500 Barton MSI K7N2 Delta (MS-6570) Nvidia Geforce FX 5600 128MB VIVO 512MB (2x 256MB) Crucial PC2700 2x 120GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 8MB 16x DVD 52x/24x/52x Lite-On CD-ReWriter 550 watt Q-Tech PSU Superflower silver case T1 Internet Connection AOC 17" 7Klr MS Keyboard+Mouse

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