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Old 03-26-04, 10:44 PM   #1
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Question 32bit drivers on Asus K8V - $100AUD for charity to solve

I cannot seem to install the Nvidia 32 bit drivers on any 32 bit Mandrake (9.2, 10 (2 kernels)) version running on my 64 bit machine (AMD64 3000+). The 64 bit drivers work fine on the 64bit distro but I require the use of a 32bit distribution for now.

Every time I go to install, after the install starts the compiling the machine hard locks. I have tried almost all versions of the 32 bit drivers with the same result. I have tried enabling/disabling acpi/acip to no avail.

Am I being stupid or something? Can the 32 bit drivers work on a 64bit system running a 32bit kernel and distro?

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Old 03-26-04, 11:14 PM   #2
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Many of us are waiting for the AMD64 drivers to support 32 bit programs. Join the club.
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Old 03-26-04, 11:39 PM   #3
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I'm trying to actually install the 32 bit drivers though
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Old 03-27-04, 02:33 AM   #4
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This 32 bit Debian setup goes just fine with the 32 bit drivers. Maybe you are using the kernel video frame buffer (nVidia drivers don't like that). It is possible to pull apart the .run driver package and do a manual install, it could reveal something.
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Old 03-29-04, 10:09 PM   #5
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This 32 bit Debian setup goes just fine with the 32 bit drivers. Maybe you are using the kernel video frame buffer (nVidia drivers don't like that). It is possible to pull apart the .run driver package and do a manual install, it could reveal something.
Can you give me some more information on this. I have now tried 2 distros, Gentoo and Mandrake with about a dozen kernels in all different configurations. As far as I can tell the nvidia drivers are causing the hard lock due to the ASM compiler that has been used?

I *really* wanna get this working!

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Old 03-29-04, 11:38 PM   #6
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sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-5332-pkg0.run --help

...brings up the options. After that I can't help you - I haven't had to do a manual install.
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Old 04-05-04, 06:41 PM   #7
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Default Re: 32bit drivers on Asus K8V

hello,

i am having the EXACT same problem. im running debian testing, kernel 2.6.4 on an asus k8v deluxe with athlon64 3200+. im running in 32 bit mode. no matter how i do it (debian packages or nvidia installer) it hardlocks as soon as the module gets loaded.

HELP!
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Old 04-05-04, 11:56 PM   #8
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Default Re: 32bit drivers on Asus K8V

I've been using both 32-bit and 64-bit drivers on the Tyan Thunder S2885 in 32-bit and 64-bit environments wtih no problems. Maybe there's something wrong with your kernel's agpgart driver? I also had to turn on ACPI and RSDT (root system descriptor table) for the S2885.
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Old 04-06-04, 09:17 AM   #9
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The problem is with the nvidia module, not the GLX driver. Its some kind of compatibility problem with the K8T800 chipset found on the Asus K8V. I am currently in contact with NVidia trying to sort this out. If anyone else with a K8V trying to use the 32 bit drivers could try to contact them it would be appreciated. They need to know about the problem before it can be fixed.
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Old 04-06-04, 02:53 PM   #10
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The problem is with the nvidia module, not the GLX driver. Its some kind of compatibility problem with the K8T800 chipset found on the Asus K8V. I am currently in contact with NVidia trying to sort this out. If anyone else with a K8V trying to use the 32 bit drivers could try to contact them it would be appreciated. They need to know about the problem before it can be fixed.
Works fine on my K8V & FX5900. both 32bit and 64bit modes. Kernel 2.6.4 vanilla and 2.6.5 vanilla. nvidia driver 5341 and 5332 respectively.
Dont expect this to work if you are running any kernel prior to 2.6.1!!!
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Old 04-07-04, 06:18 AM   #11
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Thus far I have tried it on the following kernels:

2.4.20, 2.4.22, 2.4.24, 2.4.25
2.6.1, 2.6.3

Since I only have a Ti4200, maybe that is the incompatiblity?

Do notice supragj's post too, its not just me

Anyway, once I've finished with the code I may be closer to an answer. Will keep it posted here. And whats this about a 5341 driver?
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Old 04-07-04, 06:34 PM   #12
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5341 is a leaked beta driver add's support for a quadro series card.
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Old 04-08-04, 11:26 PM   #13
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Not happy Jan!

I have now tried multiple video cards, multiple mainboards (with different chipsets) along with multiple distributions using various kernels. Every single f@#$ing occasion I try to compile 32 bit drivers on a 32 bit distro it hard locks the machine. So yes, you can understand if I'm a little angry and dumbfound.

Heres the list of devices/distros I've tried in no particular order:

Leadtek 4200Ti 64Mb video card
Leadtek A360 FX 5700 128Mb video card
Asus K8V K8T800 mainboard
Gigabyte K8NNXP Nforce3 mainboard
Mandrake 9.2/10 (32 bit)
Debian sarge (32 bit)
Gentoo 2004.0 (32 bit)
Fedora Core2 test2 (32 bit)
Kernels ranging from 2.4.22 -> 2.6.3

I have tried the above things in various combinations and are still no closer to solving this. All I want to do is shout.

Since the machine hard locks its kinda difficult getting anything logwise so I wrote down an entire screenfull after doing a manual make install (so I could see what its doing). It hard locks any bit of hardware/software attempted at the SAME freakin point! Im starting to think that anyone claiming to have 32bit distro with 32 bit drivers on 64 bit machine working is pulling faeces from their rear.

The log is as follows (as written on paper):

make[1]: Entering directory 'opt/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1/usr/src/nv'
*** Warning: Overriding SUBDIRS on the command line can cause
*** inconsistencies
CHK include/asm-i386/asm_offsets.h
echo \#define NV_COMPILER \"'cc -v 2>&1 | tail -n 1'\" > /opt/NVIDIA-Linux-x86
-1.0-5336-pkg1/usr/src/nv/nv-compiler.h
CC [M] /opt/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1/usr/src/nv/nv.o
/opt/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1/usr/src/nv/nv.c:1185: warning: initializati
on from incompatible pointer type
CC [M] /opt/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.o
CC [M] /opt/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-interface.o
CC [M] /opt/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-registry.o
LD [M] /opt/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1/usr/src/nv/nvidia.o
Building modules, stage 2
MODPOST
CC /opt/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1/usr/src/nv/nvidia.mod.o
LD [M[ /opt/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1/usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko

*** Machine hard locks here ***

I have tried various kernel options for fb, acpi, apci, memory without any success. I have another week with the hardware above, this is how long I will wait before saying 'f#@k linux, f#@k NVidia' & go back to using Windoze (because the win32 NVIDIA drivers work!)

I have been at this for over 3 weeks without getting anywhere whatsoever, I am bloody annoyed. NVidia claim they've tested the IA32 drivers on 64bit hardware - absolute crap as I think I've demonstrated. I really hope that someone can put me in my place and point out that Im a dumbass but I don't see that happening.
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Old 04-09-04, 12:44 AM   #14
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Have you tested your ram yet? Athlons are a bit picky about it. The program is memtest86.
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Old 04-09-04, 01:52 AM   #15
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I havn't tested the RAM as yet but I would doubt the need to otherwise the 64bit drivers would fail, and I would get other crashes. The RAM itself is registered DDR400 by Kingmax?

Any other suggestions?

Oh yeh, I've also tried the 5341 drivers without success incase anyone wants to suggest that.
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