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Old 05-28-04, 03:07 PM   #85
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Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

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Thats why there is a ftp install, SuSE dont provide iso's, the ftp install is a full or whatever you want install. What part of FREE can people not understand, and there is nothing stopping people getting the iso's elsewhere as SuSE is freely to distribute when brought. I'm not talking about illegal sites ether as they share it.
My point is just that you can't claim that they make a full CD installation available when they don't.

Sure, for lots of people a netinstall is great, but not everyone.

Seriously though, I think this silly discussion should either end or continue in another thread as it has nothing to do with the 4k stacks issue with the nvidia driver!
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Old 05-28-04, 03:14 PM   #86
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Hi,

for the guy who uses nvidia+4kstack:

there are reports of filesystem corruption, you SHOULD NOT do that!
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Old 05-28-04, 03:17 PM   #87
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My point is just that you can't claim that they make a full CD installation available when they don't.

Sure, for lots of people a netinstall is great, but not everyone.

Seriously though, I think this silly discussion should either end or continue in another thread as it has nothing to do with the 4k stacks issue with the nvidia driver!
Sorry last point, the ftp install is 5Gb+ but is missing some 'commerial' apps, it's very popular.
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Old 05-28-04, 03:42 PM   #88
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This will be my only address to SULinux ........ dude you either need some midol or a nap because all of your constant whimpering and putting people down is

Now I will ignore you ......
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Old 05-28-04, 06:32 PM   #89
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Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

Oh well... I guess any sort of news bearing page would be good, anything that shows us the status of the drivers, even if it just reports the problems.

It does not need to be perfectly cooridinated, as long as the users can see that development is going on.

Maybe not... Just an idea.

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Old 05-30-04, 09:35 AM   #90
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Hi,
for the guy who uses nvidia+4kstack:
there are reports of filesystem corruption, you SHOULD NOT do that!
Hmm, I use the nVIDIA 1.0-5341 +4kstack driver now on a raid-0/1 with ext3, reiserfs and xfs. Before months on one SATA disk.

I can play for hours EnemyT or copy >1GB files. All what was with corruption I ve read by google, are with development kernel eg -mm from A.M. or:

- bad/wrong BIOS settings/manufactor
- cheap flaky trash hardware
- OC like hell
- bad cooling and air flow in the PC case
- development kernel/distribution
- a setting in the kernel 2.6 named mregparm

Now think what you want, maybe I am wrong or have luck with my HW, but it runs here. My only prob was the magic advanced programmable interrupt controller (APIC) in the past...But this is with 2.6.7-rc2 history here.

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Old 05-30-04, 05:00 PM   #91
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I really don't understand this thread...
nVidia will support the 4k stacks simply because the 8K option is about to be phased out. (2.6.7 tree?)
RedHat chose to use it by default for an assortment of reasons (check the RH mailing list archive); I can't say that I agree with all of them, but most of them seem reasonable enough. (To me.)

The SUSE vs. RedHat troll-fight has no place in this forum and should have been moderated out. Please move it to slashdot or something.

Now, unless anyone has something constructive to contribute...
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Old 05-30-04, 05:09 PM   #92
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Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

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This will be my only address to SULinux ........ dude you either need some midol or a nap because all of your constant whimpering and putting people down is

Now I will ignore you ......
riiight, he's just on the defense.

look, if SuSE or even gentoo somehow made a mistake that ****ed up all of their nvidia users, then i would rag on them... but they didn't.

fact is, plain and simple, it's fedora's fault, not nvidia. you wont get that through your thick skull, and this isn't a ****ing distro war, it's just to tell you that you should not blame nvidia, or fedora, or anyone!.

IF you should blame someone, blame fedora; not nvidia. that's the facts, plain and simple. don't know what kind of ****ed up logic you guys learn in school, but it makes no sense.

i'm so angry i'm going to drink some tea. yes, that made as much sense as your arguements have.
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Old 05-30-04, 06:19 PM   #93
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I really don't understand this thread...
nVidia will support the 4k stacks simply because the 8K option is about to be phased out. (2.6.7 tree?)
RedHat chose to use it by default for an assortment of reasons (check the RH mailing list archive); I can't say that I agree with all of them, but most of them seem reasonable enough. (To me.)

The SUSE vs. RedHat troll-fight has no place in this forum and should have been moderated out. Please move it to slashdot or something.

Now, unless anyone has something constructive to contribute...
Well I'm sorry about that but the fedora trolls only see nvidia as the bad guys not the fedora kernel devs who enabled it. 4kstacks is not directed at the desktop or for speeding up games I may add.
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Old 05-30-04, 09:04 PM   #94
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I think what someone here has to get through his thick skull is that 4kstacks is a trend amongst the kernel people. Fedora just enabled it by default first. Someone has to be the first. This already happened before many times, if they didn't do this you will be using libc5 still!

nvidia only releases closed source drivers, which is fine, but that means that they will have to keep up with the kernel, and not the other way around.
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Old 05-30-04, 09:17 PM   #95
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I think what someone here has to get through his thick skull is that 4kstacks is a trend amongst the kernel people. Fedora just enabled it by default first. Someone has to be the first. This already happened before many times, if they didn't do this you will be using libc5 still!
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Old 05-31-04, 03:54 AM   #96
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I agree with CrLf.
nVidia is entitled to release closed source drives if it feels that opening (a bigger part of) the source will endanger their IP.
However, this requires them to keep closer tabs on current trends in the kernel development.

They have improved considerably in the past two years; the automated installers with the automated build procedure is a well placed effort. I hope that you'll continue doing this in the future.

Oh... and if they can find some time to improve the sucky FPS we're getting in UT2K4, I'll give my left kidney to nVidia
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