Go Back   nV News Forums > Linux Support Forums > NVIDIA Linux

Newegg Daily Deals

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-31-04, 04:57 AM   #97
pzgren
Registered User
 
pzgren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 107
Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuLinUX
Well I'm sorry about that but the fedora trolls only see nvidia as the bad guys not the fedora kernel devs who enabled it. 4kstacks is not directed at the desktop or for speeding up games I may add.
Its nVidia who releases drivers, or more exactly only 1 person, who has not even the time for it for Linux, seems so.
And RH can not deactivate an nice kernel funktion, only cause one binarie driver is not running in OpenGL.
Tell that all Ati user. They have now a driver which worked with regparm, nVidia!
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/Linux_390.html
- Explicit regparm support for newer Redhat, Fedora and SuSE kernels...
...
Or all the Matrox cards users/developers with Fedora.
Fedora is delivered with a fine running and the newest X Window System where all nVidia cards should run for 2D and maybe slow 3D. Not everybody has a nV card or is playing 3D Games all day, like you?

If nVidia has released more or faster newer drivers and compiled against an fresh stable XF/X.org or kernel, not the old XF4.02, than we have here not against a prob or nVidia. Look at the bad nForce driver. Forcedeth and ALSA is better running as all from nV released.

But the problem here have we now all discovered. nVidia supports not us little linux customer or gamers, they support the big companies with nVidia/SGI hardware by a contract, we know it.
These companies are not using an bleeding new Fedora or SuSE maybe...--> no need for new drivers.

Last edited by MUYA; 06-01-04 at 08:24 PM.
pzgren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-04, 05:29 AM   #98
SuLinUX
 
SuLinUX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 847
Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

Quote:
Originally Posted by CrLf
I think what someone here has to get through his thick skull is that 4kstacks is a trend amongst the kernel people. Fedora just enabled it by default first. Someone has to be the first. This already happened before many times, if they didn't do this you will be using libc5 still!

nvidia only releases closed source drivers, which is fine, but that means that they will have to keep up with the kernel, and not the other way around.
We know that but some people simply blame nvidia for not releasing a driver to coincide with 4kstacks, but the fact is you should stay with your current kernel if you want 3d support. 2.6.6_proper has a option to turn off or on so it's not a problem, but some fedora people purely troll nvidia which is wrong.
__________________
AthlonXP 2600+ / nForce2 Asus A7N8X-X / PNY GeForce FX5900 Ultra / 1024Mb Samsung Ram /nForce Sound / Hansol 920D Plus 19" monitor / Lite-On 32x12x40 / 2x Maxtor HD 40Gb/80Gb / nVidia 7174 driver / Gnome 2.10.1 / Kernel 2.6.11.9 / Slackware 10.0
SuLinUX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-04, 05:34 AM   #99
gilboa
Linux addict...
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 540
Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

... However, it's a big question how much time will the 8K option remain...

Cheers,
Gilboa
gilboa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-04, 01:37 PM   #100
rinthos
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 43
Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

Quote:
---
- Explicit regparm support for newer Redhat, Fedora and SuSE kernels...
---

Having an ati board, I can assure you, regparm support has -not- been fixed in the latest ati drivers, even though that is the -only- thing the release notes state.
Check out the rage3d forums, it's all over there.

Anyhow that point aside, i just wanted to say that comparing the nvidia drivers to the ati ones (using ati radeon 8500 desktop card and nvidia pny geforce 4 ti 4200), I can easily say that the nvidia drivers are _FAR_ superior, install easier, more stable, and the performance is better.

Just because they don't support a feature in a "single release canidate of a single linux distro" doesn't make them bad.
Think about it. the market follows Windows (microsoft). When microsoft announced WinXp 64-bit, did drivers instantly show up from ati and nvidia for it? No!
It makes sense that linux development is smaller than windows when it comes to video drivers, so resources are limited. As such, does it shock you that that nvidia and ati aren't ready when new kernels are released? Think about it. How many linux distros are there now (I've lost count myself). How many kernel revisions?
The scope is _HUGE_. Considering with Windows the scope is limited, it's easier to develop for, not to mention they have more manpower there too!
Thus it's unreasonable to expect a company to have support for the latest kernel releases as they are released. They don't have the staff, the funding, or the time to make their drivers work for _every possible option_ out there, but from what I've seen, they've done an excellent job thus far!
---
rinthos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-04, 09:53 PM   #101
Kamel
Hardware Mass Murderer
 
Kamel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 1,035
Send a message via ICQ to Kamel Send a message via AIM to Kamel Send a message via MSN to Kamel Send a message via Yahoo to Kamel Send a message via Skype™ to Kamel
Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

lmfao, so basically all of you are saying that when ipv6 came out, you would get pissed off at your modem provider because it doesn't support ipv6 within a month? i mean, clearly, ipv6 is far superior to ipv4 -- that is, if you know what ipv6 is.
__________________
hardware murdered so far: geforce 5900u, deceised: sat on it. geforce 6600gt deceised: improperly mounted heatsink. 3 asus a7n8x-e deluxe motherboards, deceised: unsure. mobile amd xp2600 processor, deceised: chipped core due to compusa heatsink. dfi lanparty ultra b, deceised: unsure, third memory bank went out. samsung cd burner 48x40x48, deceised: unsure, will only read pressed cd's very slowly. samsung TH552C dvd burner (dual layer), deceised: same as other samsung . 10gb seagate 5200rpm drive, deceised: tried fixing a pin that was pushed into the drive by inserting an ide cable upside down. 40gb maxtor drive, deceised: maxtor manufacturer. 80gb western digital, deceised: unnatural causes. swan xt10, deceised: brutal pre-meditated murder, even video taped (it wasn't y2k compliant). logitech mx510, deceised: death by electricution. ati remote wonder, deceised: death by electricution.
Kamel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-04, 11:18 PM   #102
LordMorgul
Electrical Engineer
 
LordMorgul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Luis Obispo, CA
Posts: 872
Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

Quote:
Originally Posted by rinthos
As such, does it shock you that that nvidia and ati aren't ready when new kernels are released? Think about it. How many linux distros are there now (I've lost count myself). How many kernel revisions?
Indeed... we're talking about one driver created from a platform independent driver architecture that compiles and installs itself into any number of kernel configurations ranging across the 2.4.x series and the 2.6.x series.. often working quite well with the most experimental kernels available (-mm and -ck, other patchsets, various schedulers).
Quote:
Originally Posted by rinthos
The scope is _HUGE_. Considering with Windows the scope is limited, it's easier to develop for, not to mention they have more manpower there too!
Thus it's unreasonable to expect a company to have support for the latest kernel releases as they are released. They don't have the staff, the funding, or the time to make their drivers work for _every possible option_ out there, but from what I've seen, they've done an excellent job thus far!
---
Very well said. It is indeed unreasonable to expect the problem to be fixed just as the kernel is released.. or before a significant period of time has passed for them to catch up, make the modifications, and test it thoroughly before release. I think you have the right attitude about this.

Many people however.. are blowing the issue out of proportion on both sides here -- those who understand and those who apparently do not -- some of each are really off the mark. As posted above once.. the distro war is completely out of context regarding the issues with the kernel and nVIDIA's driver development.
__________________
"..the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke)
nVIDIA video driver RPMs for Fedora :: see yum repo at livna.org.
LordMorgul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-04, 11:21 PM   #103
Kamel
Hardware Mass Murderer
 
Kamel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 1,035
Send a message via ICQ to Kamel Send a message via AIM to Kamel Send a message via MSN to Kamel Send a message via Yahoo to Kamel Send a message via Skype™ to Kamel
Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

Quote:
Originally Posted by pzgren
[EOT] and I left this forum now forever, my time is too expensive to wrote little school trolls.
Edited by MUYA : Let's not indulge in name calling shall we from now on FOLKS!
__________________
hardware murdered so far: geforce 5900u, deceised: sat on it. geforce 6600gt deceised: improperly mounted heatsink. 3 asus a7n8x-e deluxe motherboards, deceised: unsure. mobile amd xp2600 processor, deceised: chipped core due to compusa heatsink. dfi lanparty ultra b, deceised: unsure, third memory bank went out. samsung cd burner 48x40x48, deceised: unsure, will only read pressed cd's very slowly. samsung TH552C dvd burner (dual layer), deceised: same as other samsung . 10gb seagate 5200rpm drive, deceised: tried fixing a pin that was pushed into the drive by inserting an ide cable upside down. 40gb maxtor drive, deceised: maxtor manufacturer. 80gb western digital, deceised: unnatural causes. swan xt10, deceised: brutal pre-meditated murder, even video taped (it wasn't y2k compliant). logitech mx510, deceised: death by electricution. ati remote wonder, deceised: death by electricution.

Last edited by MUYA; 06-01-04 at 08:26 PM.
Kamel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-04, 02:46 AM   #104
gilboa
Linux addict...
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 540
Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

Edited BY MUYA: Reasons as above

Last edited by MUYA; 06-01-04 at 08:30 PM.
gilboa is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 06-01-04, 10:11 AM   #105
pzgren
Registered User
 
pzgren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 107
Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamel
lXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
EDITED BY MUYA : Same Reasons as Above

Last edited by MUYA; 06-01-04 at 08:29 PM.
pzgren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-04, 02:59 AM   #106
gilboa
Linux addict...
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 540
Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

At last.

Thanks, admin.

BTW, is it possible to PM an admin, in such cases, before things really gets out of hand?

Gilboa
gilboa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-04, 04:55 AM   #107
LordMorgul
Electrical Engineer
 
LordMorgul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Luis Obispo, CA
Posts: 872
Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

Quote:
Originally Posted by gilboa
BTW, is it possible to PM an admin, in such cases, before things really gets out of hand?
There is a small icon on the left bottom of every page with a red triagle and exclamation mark. That link is for 'report this post to moderator'. The moderators probably get inundated with reports tho, so no crying wolf too much.
__________________
"..the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." (Edmond Burke)
nVIDIA video driver RPMs for Fedora :: see yum repo at livna.org.
LordMorgul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-04, 06:12 AM   #108
gilboa
Linux addict...
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 540
Default Re: Nvidia working on new driver for 2.6.5

Found it.
Thanks.

Sadly enough, this thread went well passed wolf
gilboa is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
nvidia driver quality decrease? legluondunet NVIDIA Linux 17 06-26-12 10:03 AM
Nvidia driver stopped working after X restart and Kernel taint msgs during boot mikejuni NVIDIA Linux 10 05-21-12 08:30 PM
Need Help Installing NVIDIA Tesla M2070Q in Linux RHEL5 Ferianto85 NVIDIA Linux 0 05-18-12 08:35 PM
Getting the proprietary nvidia driver to run with Debian 3.0 r0 (woody) Katchina404 NVIDIA Linux 9 01-12-03 08:49 AM
nvidia + 2.4.19 gentoo = messed up ulukay NVIDIA Linux 18 11-01-02 11:58 PM

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 1998 - 2014, nV News.