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Old 06-25-04, 05:09 AM   #217
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Fahim, You are right that the FX5600 bios speed tables are not same as that of FX59xx types. However there are definately very similar three tables, ie 2D, Throttling and 3D ?

I have mailed you m564575.rom, which is your MSI FX5600 bios modified to set stock speeds at 300/400/575. But, for memory speed, I have only set 3D mode to 575. The changes however can only be verified through testing with a FX5600 card. So try it and let me know the outcome ?

Also, if I am reading the speed tables properly, it appears that memory
speed is not same for 2D, Throttling and 3D modes. Could you verify this
using the Rivatuner Hardware Monitor ?
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Old 06-26-04, 09:42 AM   #218
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Hi Jimmor,

My MSI NBOX FX5900 Ultra has two large cooper heat sinks as well as two fans so it should be pretty safe to mod it to 5950 specs ?

Here are my video card pictures:

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...fx5900u/2.html
(the green card is the FX5900Ultra reference board and my MSI NOX is with RED PCB)

I found The MSI5950u bios is available from Mavke website, As you mentioned earlier in this thread

http://www.mvktech.net/download.php?list.26

The "MSI FX5900 Ultra 256MB - Rev 01 - 4.35.20.22.00" matches my bios Revision...now Mavke has two FX5950Ultra bioses on his site Rev 1 and Rev 2. Perhaps Rev 2. might be the way to go assuming it supports VIVO, which I really need. Though I did notice that my MSI 5900 Ultra bios size file doesn't matches the size of MSI 5950 Ultra, they are both very close but not exactly the same, wouldn't that be an issue ?

Sorrry for asking this stupid question, but what software would I need to change the bios on my MSI FX5900 Ultra ? I would like to do simple swap of MSI 5900 Ultra to MSI FX5950Utrla Rev 2 (bios found on Mavke's site), no additional custom changes...

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Old 06-26-04, 11:42 AM   #219
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Well I just finished flashing my MS NBOX FX5900 Ultra to 5950 Ultra using MSI 5950 Ultra bios Rev 2, wow that was easy! I used nVFlash4.41 version. I reinstalled FW 56.72 (just in case) and I have applied cool bits 2. Checked speeds all seems ok (475/950), what I noticed though is that my GPU temperatures (in idle) actually went down a bit:

MSI NBOX FX5900 Ultra original bios:

GPU core temperature: 40C
Ambiet temperature: 32C

With the new MSI Fx5950 Ultra Rev. 2 bios:

GPU core temperature: 35C
Ambiet temperature: 30C

Now I have to do some testing including VIVO support...

So far so good
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Old 06-27-04, 08:07 AM   #220
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Hi Jimmor,

My MSI NBOX FX5900 Ultra has two large cooper heat sinks as well as two fans so it should be pretty safe to mod it to 5950 specs ?

Here are my video card pictures:

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...fx5900u/2.html
(the green card is the FX5900Ultra reference board and my MSI NOX is with RED PCB)
there should never be any problems with flashing a 5900nu or 5900u to a 5950u, as the only real diff is a 5950u uses 2.0ns memory and the others use slightly slower 2.2ns ! and none have any prob's with 5950u speeds !

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I found The MSI5950u bios is available from Mavke website, As you mentioned earlier in this thread

http://www.mvktech.net/download.php?list.26

The "MSI FX5900 Ultra 256MB - Rev 01 - 4.35.20.22.00" matches my bios Revision...now Mavke has two FX5950Ultra bioses on his site Rev 1 and Rev 2. Perhaps Rev 2. might be the way to go assuming it supports VIVO, which I really need. Though I did notice that my MSI 5900 Ultra bios size file doesn't matches the size of MSI 5950 Ultra, they are both very close but not exactly the same, wouldn't that be an issue ?

Sorrry for asking this stupid question, but what software would I need to change the bios on my MSI FX5900 Ultra ? I would like to do simple swap of MSI 5900 Ultra to MSI FX5950Utrla Rev 2 (bios found on Mavke's site), no additional custom changes...
for flashing purposes, all bios files are based on same 64k size; just come in diff size files because of diff's in functionality etc that diff manufacturers program into software ! Not important for your purposes, other than as you say, a need to ensure that VIVO etc is supported !
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Old 06-27-04, 08:12 AM   #221
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Well I just finished flashing my MS NBOX FX5900 Ultra to 5950 Ultra using MSI 5950 Ultra bios Rev 2, wow that was easy! I used nVFlash4.41 version. I reinstalled FW 56.72 (just in case) and I have applied cool bits 2. Checked speeds all seems ok (475/950), what I noticed though is that my GPU temperatures (in idle) actually went down a bit:

MSI NBOX FX5900 Ultra original bios:

GPU core temperature: 40C
Ambiet temperature: 32C

With the new MSI Fx5950 Ultra Rev. 2 bios:

GPU core temperature: 35C
Ambiet temperature: 30C

Now I have to do some testing including VIVO support...

So far so good

of course it was easy, which is why so many of us do it !

and the slight tempdrop is normal after flashing with a 5950u bios ! However to always measure temps/speeds properly, use rivatuner's real time hardware monitor, where you will find that your new flashed card will probably peak around 70+c when under load of gaming etc !
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Old 06-27-04, 01:47 PM   #222
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Jimmor,

my MSI 5900XT runs perfectly @ 480/880 now. But my friends same card can't run at 450/850. I use the same bios i use for my card?? is there any way to solve this problem?

I also tried latency modded (40) & non-modded (43) bios, but nothing works. It freezes on nature & corruption at troll's lair. Help me.......

THANKS.
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Old 06-27-04, 01:50 PM   #223
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Jimmor,

I don't have the FX 5600 right now in my hand. I'll get it soon though, then I'll do a big research & let you know. Sorry for the late reply, as I'm really busy for these days with some problem with my 6600.
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Jimmor,I want to thank you for the modded bios.my MSI 5900XT vivo will now run rock solid at 480/800.where as before it would go absolutly no higher then 450/765...testing at 495/830 for the last day has proved it can handle this even higher speed,I do think I'll leave it at 495/830 as I dont want to push it any higher.
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Jimmor,

my MSI 5900XT runs perfectly @ 480/880 now. But my friends same card can't run at 450/850. I use the same bios i use for my card?? is there any way to solve this problem?

I also tried latency modded (40) & non-modded (43) bios, but nothing works. It freezes on nature & corruption at troll's lair. Help me.......

THANKS.
just got to this post, and I assume this is covered by the two bios's you sent me to look at ??

you will need to tell me how you got on with those I returned ??

also, glad at least your card is working fine now !!
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Jimmor,I want to thank you for the modded bios.my MSI 5900XT vivo will now run rock solid at 480/800.where as before it would go absolutly no higher then 450/765...testing at 495/830 for the last day has proved it can handle this even higher speed,I do think I'll leave it at 495/830 as I dont want to push it any higher.
glad you found a modded bios that works ok with your MSI card ! Speeds of 495/830 are good for a MSI5900XT !

And I think you are wise not to push your card too high ? Most of the time it is more important to set levels you know to be stable, rather than just going for outright overclocks ?
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Jimmor,

I don't have the FX 5600 right now in my hand. I'll get it soon though, then I'll do a big research & let you know. Sorry for the late reply, as I'm really busy for these days with some problem with my 6600.
as I said before, a FX5600 is not a big thing with me simply because I don't own one !

Although it would be nice to know how you get on, any research/testing is really set by your priorities of work ! So concentrate only on what is currently important ?

By your 6600, do you actually mean 6800 ? And if you do, then I can't see why any work on a 5600 could ever be important ??
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as I said before, a FX5600 is not a big thing with me simply because I don't own one !

Although it would be nice to know how you get on, any research/testing is really set by your priorities of work ! So concentrate only on what is currently important ?

By your 6600, do you actually mean 6800 ? And if you do, then I can't see why any work on a 5600 could ever be important ??

as per your sig, I just wanted to gather knowledge about FX 5600 BIOS, nothing else. There is no benefit modding a FX 5600 bios unless it can overclock to 1GHz core/2GHz mem.

I know maximum dealers in our local pc market, so i don't have problem testing cards or borrow or for test before I buy. Kind of research, but just for me.

Sorry about the confusion, by writing 6600, i mean my NOKIA 6600 handphone. Sorry again.

Thanks Jimmor.
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