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Old 06-08-04, 05:10 AM   #97
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Hi Jimmor! I have 2 major questions: (5900XT -> nU or U)

1. I've tried to flash my inno 5900xt bios many times with nvflash and wfflash, but always the same problem: Board ID mismatch. This problem - I think - cannot be solved by using -p -u or -5 -6 switches (<= vendor/pci ID ...) My board ID is 3510 while other XT cards have 3502 and 5900nU-s have 3500. What is this? There's simly no compatible BIOS for my VGA??!!

2. VGABIOS.exe loads a bios image to RAM. Does this loaded file remains the actual bios-file until restart, or it just tests if it's working and loads back original eeprom bios?

Hope U or someone can help!!! Thx.
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Old 06-08-04, 07:54 AM   #98
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Are you using nvFlash.v4.41 ?
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Old 06-08-04, 07:57 AM   #99
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No, I tried only v4.42 and v4.46? Should I take a look at v4.41?!
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Old 06-08-04, 08:17 AM   #100
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Thx a lot my friend!!! v4.41 complains about nothing. Although I only flashed an other XT's bios, everything worked fine. I go on and try some greater "OC".

Tried a 5900nU bios but no success. Why doesnt it work?

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Old 06-08-04, 09:21 AM   #101
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Welcome fazi1985
Glad it was easy fix.

Dunno why nu bios doesnt work
maybe just doesnt like the xt.
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Old 06-08-04, 01:31 PM   #102
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lol. yup I quit swearing.
Yes, the voltage table is correct.
its stable , finally.
But I'm disappointed that bfg are really chaintech cards.
Thats not very cool from a company that advertises "we're just like you"
I just thought more of bfg I guess, but its just like finding out , santa claus isnt real. lol (I'm gonna get prodded for saying that lol)
Anyways bfg should give you a cut of what I paid!
In my opinion bfg should've stayed away from the xt model.
In my eyes its hurt more then helped them.
I will be looking more toward leadtek from nowon.
Thanks a load for your help!
BFG and Chaintech are not the only ones in bed together, the Creative 59xx series of cards are manufactured by MSI ! Its probably a cost sharing thing that helps to make bigger profits for all concerned ?

And, what do you mean by, santa claus isnt real ?? You being listening to disbelievers propaganda again ?? I've already posted my letter requesting a new 6800 GT for my xmas, so don't you be upsetting him before then !! And not that you don't deserve it, but who is prodding you, and is it painful ??

Back to the real world, you are definately right that manufacturers like BFG do themselves no good by selling poor quality goods ! Especially when they are charging just as much as the better manufacturers ? Its just bad PR which only gets them a bad rep ! Probably whoever does their marketing just doesn't understand how to look at the long term picture ???

and always glad to help !
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Old 06-08-04, 01:45 PM   #103
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I get it now. Thanks.




You're right, I have no confidence at all in doing it. Seems I have to leave it alone for the time being. A sound advice jimmor, I appreciate it.




Yes, I did everything I can think of, including using other monitors that I know for sure are good ones, and using three other cards as well.

Well, since then I've put the fx5200u in my son's computer, and with his untrained eyes, he does not notice the flicker in his games. Besides, I already purchased a second hand MSI Ti4200 on the cheap (50 bucks), and with 10-30% speed improvement over the 5200 ultra, I couldn't be more happier

Sorry for being off topic, and again, thanks a lot jimmor!
good purchase with the ti4200 ! But is a FX5200 really a good way to help a son with poor eyesight !

Before I got my FX5900, I used a ti4200 for a long time and found it to be a very good card.

Depending only on the memory chip type fitted, it is also a very good overclocker ! I overclocked my ti4200 128, which has same BGA memory as a ti4600, to 300/650. And I've seen postings of even higher overclocking achievements.

the only real problem with this series of card is temperature, so good case cooling is important to a long life !

and no probs with the help, glad to !
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I've already posted my letter requesting a new 6800 GT for my xmas
order two and send me one please.
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Old 06-08-04, 02:09 PM   #105
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Thx a lot my friend!!! v4.41 complains about nothing. Although I only flashed an other XT's bios, everything worked fine. I go on and try some greater "OC".

Tried a 5900nU bios but no success. Why doesnt it work?
If you read my 59xx bios modding guide at the first post,you will notice that the GPU volts table for a 5900nu and 5900XT are totally different, and this diff alone will make it virtually impossible for you to flash with a 5900nu bios. Problem being that GPU volts error will likely stop card booting into windows. Similar problems will also occur if flashing with 5900u and 5950u bios's. There is a very small proviso to this situation, and that is because the very first batch of 5900XT cards released from manufacturers were just reworked 5900nu designs ! And therefore of course, any of these early cards will happily flash with any 5900nu,5900u or 5950u bios !

with a current unique 5900XT card however, best results are obtained by flashing with other manufacturers XT bios's. And there is very long thread at Guru3d, with modified performance bios's for all XT owners to try ?

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?threadid=85394

there are also underclocked 5950u bios's, if you also must see if your card can flash with them ? Some peoples cards have actually flashed reasonably ok, but thats probably to be expected since many manufacturers current XT/SE/LE/LX cards spec's seem to vary so much these days ???

But personally, I still recommend you stick to XT type bios's !
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Old 06-08-04, 02:59 PM   #106
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Thx lads! I'll try some other XT bioses.
May volt-modded bioses damage my card? What happens if it gets overheated? Is there any "anti-overheat" stuff for vgas like cpus?
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Thx lads! I'll try some other XT bioses.
May volt-modded bioses damage my card? What happens if it gets overheated? Is there any "anti-overheat" stuff for vgas like cpus?
as I have told others, all my voltmoded bios's were done in such a way that it will either work for you or do nothing ! And do nothing means, the bios will provide the same GPU volts that it would have were it not voltmodded ! So totally safe !

Also, there are temperature control safety functions on your card to protect against overheating issues; however overclocking will have some negative effect on this ?

Generally if you keep your max speeds no higher than 300/450/800 then you should be fine ? But remember with overclocking, good case cooling is important !! Also, if, like many XT type cards, your memory chips have no heatsinking/cooling, then I suggest you purchase and fit ramsinks, especially if considering overclocking higher ??

EDIT:

since you have no temp monitoring, it is also important to regularly check, with a finger if necessary, your GPU heatsink and memory chips for excessive temps !! Some people actually buy commercial temp sensors which the stick onto the GPU and/or memory ! And if your memory chips have no proper heatsinking then it is much more important to stick sensors on these than any GPU heatsinking ??
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They are 2.5ns Hynix so hopefully there will be no problem with ram OCing. (however no heatsinks yet)
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