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Old 07-14-04, 11:41 AM   #1
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Got a $700 budget to work with to upgrade my machine for the new games coming out (Doom3 ..etc). I have a 480W power supply, a nice 19" monitor and 4 hard drives, so now I am wanting to upgrade my mobo and cpu and graphic card. Please let me know what you think is the best bang for you buck for:

1. Motherboard
2. Memory
3. CPU
4. Graphics Card.

Main point of the system is to squeak out the highest possible settings and highest possible fps for the next generation of games like Doom 3, HL2, Stalker.

I usually buy stuff from NewEgg.com and Crucial.com, so please let me know if you can get a better deal on something elsewhere...

Thanks for any suggestions on any of the 4 components, eagerly awaiting your responses...

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Old 07-14-04, 11:45 AM   #2
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Main point of the system is to squeak out the highest possible settings and highest possible fps for the next generation of games like Doom 3, HL2, Stalker.
For your proposed budget, that's not going to be possible. For games like this, you would need at least an Athlon 64 3000+ ($200), Motherboard ($100), 1 GB of RAM ($300) and a GeForce 6800 GT ($400).

If you already have a decent (~1.8-2 GHz CPU, 512 mb RAM, GeForce4 Ti or better) machine, wait and save a little longer so you will be able to afford something that will better suit your needs.
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Old 07-14-04, 12:28 PM   #3
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If you already have a decent (~1.8-2 GHz CPU, 512 mb RAM, GeForce4 Ti or better) machine, wait and save a little longer so you will be able to afford something that will better suit your needs.
That's almost my exact machine...

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Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 1, with latest updates from windowsupdate.com
AMD 1800+, 512MB RAM
MSI Geforce 4 Ti4400, Latest detonator drivers
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Shuttle MN31N, Latest Drivers
Maxtor 80GB, 7200rpm, ATA66 Hard Drive
Sony DRU500A DVD Burner

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For your proposed budget, that's not going to be possible.
How can that not be possible I'm asking for a system that can squeak out the highest possible settings and highest possible fps... maybe that means only 30fps

Maybe I can do it piece by piece upgrade the mobo, memory and cpu first, then later the graphic card or maybe visa versa. Maybe spend $400 not on Geforce 6800 GT with my currrent config. I don't, with a $700 budget and my current system where would you spend the dough...

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Old 07-14-04, 12:38 PM   #4
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Default Re: Pick a Mobo, CPU and GPU for under $700 US

hmm for 700? 1 gig of PC3200 is not 300 around 200. nforce2 ultra 400 mobo 80 athlon xp 2500+ mobile 80 overclock it. And a 6800GT and all should be good.
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Old 07-14-04, 01:02 PM   #5
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Thanks for the recommendation Banko, where do you suggest buying from... somewhere hopefully reliable.... Newegg good?
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Old 07-14-04, 01:08 PM   #6
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I'm thinking, if your oging to by a computer now, you might as well get the best you can, since the upgrade path is limited..

AGP is on its way out, like it or not, PCI-E is what everything will be moving to.. Intel is moving off to a new socket and chipset(although we might have to wait for another interation to see the true gains)

Not sure whats going on the AMD side though..
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Old 07-14-04, 01:09 PM   #7
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In my experience, Neweg is a great place to shop for stuff that isn't brand new. Brand new stuff, Like A64's and GeForce 6800's , aint that great at newegg, they price gouge on some of the new stuff. But for what your proposing, like the Mobile 45 Watt Athlon 2500+,( which is a GREAT Oc'r I might add, to like 2400MHz And above, thats 3400+ Speeds, from 1.8GHz default) and the nForce 2 Ultra Mobo, and the gig of RAM, Newegg will suit your needs perfectly. Thats where I got all of my system, with the exception of the 6800 GT. And as for your GT, I'd recommend buying from www.evga.com for an eVGA 6800 board, or from outpost.com for the BFG Tech GeForce 6800 GT OC for $399. Hope I was of some help.
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[I]i don't know about you guys, but i'd like to teach my kid that if a demon breaks into our house, you should shoot the bastard... multiple times, until he decinegrates (just to make sure).[/I]

I am 73% addicted to Counterstrike. [url=http://seanism.com/addiction/cs.php]What about you?[/url]
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Old 07-14-04, 01:10 PM   #8
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OK....let the flame game begin...

The following IMHO will offer a lot of bang for the buck:
CPU: AMD XP 3200+ RETAIL (Incl HS&F): $187.00
MOBO: ASUS A7N8X $84.00
RAM: 512MB (2X 256MB) OCZ PLATINUM: $126
VPU: eVGA 6800: $289.00 (includes Far Cry). A 9800 or 5950 would also be worth considering, and may actually save you a few bucks at current prices.

All prices are Newegg, today.
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Old 07-14-04, 01:14 PM   #9
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Default Re: Pick a Mobo, CPU and GPU for under $700 US

He Doesn't need the 3200+. He can just get the 2500+ Regular or the 2500+ Mobile and OC it to or past 3200+ Speeds (2.22GHz). And a Gig of ram is becoming more and more of a necessity with new games that take up so much resources. Like Farcry. I'd leave out the previous generation of graphics cards (9800, 5900) because a 6800 Regular is so much better than a 5950 or 9800, and there only 290! Just tryin to help :-)
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40GB Maxtor Hard Drive 7200RPM
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[I]i don't know about you guys, but i'd like to teach my kid that if a demon breaks into our house, you should shoot the bastard... multiple times, until he decinegrates (just to make sure).[/I]

I am 73% addicted to Counterstrike. [url=http://seanism.com/addiction/cs.php]What about you?[/url]
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Old 07-14-04, 01:15 PM   #10
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athalon A64 3000+
chaintech vnf3 mobo
PNY geforce 6800 GT (buy.com $330)
Mushkin 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3500 Level One - OEM
Total cost $780

I'll find you some memory...

pay the extra $100 for this setup it will be worth it
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Old 07-14-04, 01:17 PM   #11
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Also, are you planning to upgrade this computer again? and when?

For example, it might be worth it to just bite the bullet and get a $400 6800GT and use that for 3 years, instead of of buying, say a $200 9800pro, for 1.5 years, and perhaps getting a the 6800GT for $200 in another 1.5 years... (just a a hypothetical guess on the future price)
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Old 07-14-04, 01:22 PM   #12
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Squidly, and keep my current 512MB PC2100 RAM?

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AGP is on its way out, like it or not, PCI-E is what everything will be moving to..
ynnek, will motherboard support AGP and PCI-E or is AGp dead? So we'll have regular PIC and PCI-E slots for the vid card, or how would this work Alos, when are cards using PCI-E available...

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