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Old 01-23-06, 06:25 PM   #1429
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Hmmm... 3dmark06 tells me 11mhz on the gpu all the time. It's a 6800gt agp specific problem I guess. Maybe Rivatuner monitors incorrectly too.
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Old 01-24-06, 10:56 AM   #1430
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I feel like this thread is a support group...

I too am a victim of GeForce 6800 freeze up issues. It all started with any and all driver versions released after BF2. This would be drivers 77.xx and above. Games such as, WoW, Bf2, HL, CS:S all lock up randomly during play. Temp is good, power supply is good. The system is very stable with the exception being during play of "modern" PC games.

If I roll back to older drivers, such as my faithful 72.13's from guru3d, everything works great. No freezes. Ever. As soon as I upgrade video drivers to say 81.98, all bets are off and the freezes return.

I've read various theories on fixing the problem in the lineage of this forum.
  • Disable fast writes
  • Issues with non VIA chipsets

Any new data to support these? I've recently done a complete reinstall, and the problems remain. For now, I'm going to run with the faithful, but old drivers.

I'm pondering trying a new mobo out, a VIA one as mentioned in some previous posts. Any insights are appreciated at this point.
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Old 01-24-06, 04:08 PM   #1431
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Hard to say, if I was answering your question, then no that is not normal. Does your case have good airflow? In a warm room? My idle temps are 49' / 32', but I have 6 case fans and a copper heatsink on my 6800 GT. Oh yeah, what kind of card are you referring too? Is dust a problem inside your case?
I have ok airflow (one 80mm on the side for intake and another on rear for outtake). I was just playing the new Star Wars rts demo the other day, and I started experiencing freezes like I used to. Rivatuner reported my temps as getting up to 80-81 under load. I turned down some of the graphical settings (namely turned off soft shadows), and the temps returned to 74-75, and the freezes stopped. I'm thinking my issues are heat related. I also have fast writes turned off and this is on an nf3 board. No dust inside the case either, I just recently cleaned it out, and even then there wasn't much dust to begin with.
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Old 01-24-06, 09:39 PM   #1432
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Slug,

When I first recieved my eVga 6800GT I emailed tech support as I believed that my temps were "way too high" they responded to my email with this

"Answer (12/21/2004 11:16:25 AM): Hi John,

The average idle temperature for your video card is around 50 to 60 degrees and average load temperature is around 80 to 90 degrees. These numbers will vary slightly depending on the computer system.

eVGA.com Customer Service


So temperature may not be a factor for you at all.

Disabling fast writes solved the problem for me as far as playable gaming. I do believe that the performace hit that is associated with turning fast writes off, is something that nVidia should compensate all the 6800/NF3 users for, or get off thier lazy buttocks and fix. Let's face it, incompatibility between chipsets and video cards manufactured by the same company borders on class action lawsuit territory.

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Old 01-24-06, 10:03 PM   #1433
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I don't mind having fast writes off, as there is very little performance hit. What I want to know is, if it's not heat, why would it freeze at higher temps and not lower ones, and what is causing my issue with WoW/directX? (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=63542)
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Old 01-24-06, 10:19 PM   #1434
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I had that problem in WoW but only some of the mid 70's series drivers. when you install new vid card drivers what procedure do you follow????

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Old 01-24-06, 10:23 PM   #1435
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I had that problem in WoW but only some of the mid 70's series drivers. when you install new vid card drivers what procedure do you follow????
Uninstall the old ones, reboot into safe mode. Run regcleaner or some other cleaning program to get rid of any stuff left over, reboot into normal mode and install the new drivers.

Interesting that you say it happened with the 70.xx drivers. I can't remember if I had the same problem with those or if I was getting whole freezes instead.

You're right that it might not be temperature, as I've never had a problem with openGL programs, but I haven't tried monitoring my temps while running any.
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Slug,

Seems like you have your driver swap procedure up to snuff. Try the 8.22 remix nforce drivers from guru3d.com, no need to uninstall like the vids, just install right over top of your current system driver set.
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Old 01-24-06, 10:46 PM   #1437
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Thanks Tho, I'll give that a shot.
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Old 01-26-06, 11:15 AM   #1438
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Uninstall the old ones, reboot into safe mode. Run regcleaner or some other cleaning program to get rid of any stuff left over, reboot into normal mode and install the new drivers.

Interesting that you say it happened with the 70.xx drivers. I can't remember if I had the same problem with those or if I was getting whole freezes instead.

You're right that it might not be temperature, as I've never had a problem with openGL programs, but I haven't tried monitoring my temps while running any.
Sounds like your asking yourself the same questions that I've been asking for the past few months. Is it running hot? Is the PSU providing enough power? etc.

All know is that when I run "older", pre 77.xx Forceware drivers, I have zero issues. Granted, I can't take advantage of new features like dynamic shadows in BF2, but I do not get full system freeze ups when I use them. I'm currently forced to use 72.13 drivers from guru3d.

This reeks of driver issue. Hopefully we can find some modern ones that actually work.

There is a great thread here:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=938842

regarding this issue and what some users have tried.
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Sounds like your asking yourself the same questions that I've been asking for the past few months. Is it running hot? Is the PSU providing enough power? etc.
I've seen it get up to 81 under load. Some say this is too hot, some say it's normal. It certainly could be overheating, but at the same time my problem seems to be specific to directx, so I don't know for sure. My PSU is pretty new and puts out 29A on the 12V lines. Thanks for the thread link, I'll look through it. I'll probably experiment with various driver versions to see what happens with each.
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Old 01-29-06, 11:21 AM   #1440
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I found this thread over a year ago and for 6 months I checked it religiously and not a single thing helped. I then put up with it for a few more months then ditched it all for 7800GT based system. This thread will probably still be active when it is a full 2 YEARS old and still no fix. Seriously guys , this fault must lie in the hardware and cant be fixed otherwise it would have been fixed long ago, Nvidia arent intested in the slightest. I recently started using my 6800GT with a media center I built , first thing I did was replace the nforce3 board with the Via chipset Asus K8V-SE and its been rock solid. I recommened anyone with this problem to try and get a refund for the board or bite the bullet and buy a new one.

On another note, I wonder if we will see the same problem with nforce3 and the 7800GS agp card, if we do I wonder if Nvidia will do anything about it this time round?
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