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Old 04-18-05, 09:23 PM   #673
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sorry betterdan, i've tested some more and mine still locks if i push it too far in certain games (past 400/1100). gave me about 10% more to work with though. did you read my post on dfi-street?
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Old 04-18-05, 09:26 PM   #674
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Yep I read it. I upped my video card voltage to 1.4 the other day and this seemed to help the most. I still get freezes but not as constant since I upped the voltage. Pisses me off though with the freezes. I guess I will never really get a fix until I buy another motherboard which is a damn shame.
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Old 04-18-05, 09:41 PM   #675
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Tears of joy!

After 7 months of this "issue", i finally found the solution for NF3/6800 GT owners(at least for me, please reply if it doesnt work for you).

I tried nearly everything: every driver since 61.76; fastwrites on/off (off seems to help, but kills performance); cpu/ mem/ apg/ chipset voltages; PCI latency tweak. I knew it wasnt temps either: 34C cpu/ 26C sys/ 48C gpu/ 30C pcb. Nothing worked except dropping the core clock to around 380-400, could even leave the DDR3 at 1200.

1. Download Driver Cleaner Pro and follow the steps in the readme file to the letter, removing both chipset and display drivers and cab cleaning.

2. Install the 6.53 NF4 Standalone drivers (YES this is for NF3 owners).
Do not install NAM and Do not reboot yet.

3. Install just GART 4.40 from the 6.37 beta drivers.
Do not reboot yet.

4. Install the ForceWare 76.44 drivers.
Now reboot.

Thats it You can find all the drivers and DCP at guru3d.com
Currently benching: AquaMark3 70454 3DMark05 5742
Hey guys!
I'm new here...
I read all this topic and have the same problem !

My card works only if FW is disabled ...
I tried everything, but only FW (off) works for me.

I tried also what Porksmuggler said... and same story again Didn't work for me ;(
Perhaps i did something wrong...
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Old 04-18-05, 11:01 PM   #676
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FW off helps a little but still isn't a solution for me as it still freezes (it just takes a little longer to freeze in games is all)
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Old 04-19-05, 12:53 AM   #677
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Hey guys!
I'm new here...
I read all this topic and have the same problem !

My card works only if FW is disabled ...
I tried everything, but only FW (off) works for me.

I tried also what Porksmuggler said... and same story again Didn't work for me ;(
Perhaps i did something wrong...
Well, then you got it fixed, don't you? The difference between FW on and off is very marginal, makes about 0.5% difference in performance. Isn't that half a procent you worth your stability? It certainly is for me.
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Old 04-19-05, 07:38 AM   #678
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Well, then you got it fixed, don't you? The difference between FW on and off is very marginal, makes about 0.5% difference in performance. Isn't that half a procent you worth your stability? It certainly is for me.
My card works fine when FW is on untill 390-395MHz.
And with 390MHz in Aquamark i get 67845 (FW on), with 420MHz i get 66370 (FW off)
I think if i have 420HMz with FW on, it would be a big diference...
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Old 04-19-05, 01:37 PM   #679
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Found another possible fix that is along the same NF3 AGP/GART issue. its an older fix and i havent had time to try it yet, but here you go

http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/798/

got the idea from here, post #10

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=3425

looking for feedback

my explanation of why this might work

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/show...8&page=2&pp=15
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Old 04-19-05, 06:02 PM   #680
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Tried the registry fix and it didn't help anything. Tried disabling write combining in display troubleshooting and it didn't help the freeze plus it slowed the video card down an incredible amount. I went back and tried the different aperature settings and even turned the rate down to 4x instead of 8x again and I even tried disabling agp altogether in direct x control panel and nothing helps. I really don't think there is any solution for me and some others out there than simply getting another motherboard. Well I do think there is 1 last thing that may help but I can't get to it. There is a hidden setting in the MSI ( and maybe other NF3 motherboards) bios that speeds up ATI and Nvidia cards. I would like to turn it off but like I said I can't get to it since my computer is one of those Compaq gaming computers. Everything is off the shelf parts except stupid Compaq had to put their little tweak on the bios and make it so that it won't recognize an official MSI update even though the bios is the identical revision 1 bios from MSI. If it wasn't for that i could update the bios and get to that setting.
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Old 04-23-05, 05:16 PM   #681
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Specs :> sig

I never experienced this 5sec freeze bug until a few weeks ago. I had FW disabled from the beginning and my card running smoothly @ 400/1100. Two weeks ago i noticed that 'auto detect clockspeed' didn't go as high as it used to. Now I can oc up to 380/1050 without problems, but when I go higher I experience the problem ...

My guess is that it's caused (on my system) by installing the 1.5 msi mobo bios. I'll try flashing it back to 1.4 tomorrow. Grrr ...

If the problem can't be solved I'm bying myself an ATI card

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Old 04-25-05, 11:48 PM   #682
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A friend of mine had an evga 6800 ultra + an nf3 chipset (asus k8n of some sort), and we could not for the life of us get this intermittent freezing problem fixed (tried: mobo bios updates, card bios updates from evga, ram voltage increases, nforce-reinstallations & various nf4-nforce sets & 'remixed' packages, windows reinstallations, setting 'Computer' to 'Standard PC' in device manager, different ram, a basket-full of forceware drivers up to and including 76.44, a couple different PSU's, lots of drives/cards connected vs. none other than the 6800U, 3 different soundcards including no-soundcards enabled, playing around w/ IRQ's in the bios, etc). Tried just about everything people have suggested in this thread as well as many similar threads on various forums. We had to give up on it. He eventually traded me for my bfg 6800nu + $100 (so i have a 6800U now) and both of our systems run perfectly.

I can't believe NV hasn't fixed this somehow, either w/ forceware or nforce releases. I write this because I want people to know that there isn't always a fix for this I now know to stay away from all nf3 chipsets.
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Old 04-26-05, 02:55 AM   #683
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smthmlk,

And your motherboard and specs are?...
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Old 04-26-05, 01:09 PM   #684
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smthmlk,

And your motherboard and specs are?...
it wasn't my system--it was a friends system and I was just helping him troubleshoot this freezing problem. The motherboard was the asus k8n-e deluxe -- http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/sock...d/overview.htm (i believe, i dont think it was the plain old k8n) and an athlon64 3000+. Video card is an eVGA 6800Ultra 256MB 8x AGP. The rest of the system components seemed to not matter, as we swapped them all in and out with no change in the freezing, so I don't see any reason to list them. The only work-around was to simply not use a 6800U with this motherboard -- no problems whatsoever with the bfg 6800 NU OC 128MB. The evga 6800U works flawlessly in my NF2 board, no freezing at any point with either the 71.89's or 76.44's and nforce 5.10's.

Please don't take this as a request for help, it cannot be helped anymore. He and I are both done troubleshooting this as we've exchanged video cards with each other.
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