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Old 11-27-02, 08:16 AM   #1
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With both Anandtechs and B3D reviews out now its nice to see ATI pushing the level of compettion. The reviews show the the 9500Pro to be close the gf4ti4600 at most settings. Once these things show up in volume the on line price should fall to make it a better deal to the consumers.
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Old 11-27-02, 09:27 AM   #2
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Very impressive.

Basically, without AF and FSAA, it's in between the Ti4400 and Ti4600,.

Enable aniso and FSAA, then it smokes the Ti cards, by a considerable margin.

Awesome card!


In the tech reports conclusion:
It's no contest. NVIDIA's product line is a generation behind, and with the debut of the Radeon 9500 Pro, there's little reason left to buy a GeForce4. I would take a Radeon 9500 Pro over a GeForce4 Ti 4200, easy, but don't stop there. I'd rather have a 9500 Pro than a GeForce4 Ti 4600, too.

In hothardware's cocnlusion after the UT2K3 tests:
With like AA and Aniso Filtering settings, the Radeon 9500 Pro is 44 - 57% faster than even the GeForce 4 Ti 4600, in these two tests. We're not sure how else we could slice or dice this for you. It's fairly easy to digest in any scenario. The Radeon 9500 Pro wins hands down by a huge margin, in this fantastic new First Person Shooter from Epic. We'll sound that GeForce FX bell again. Time to get a substitute into the ring NVIDIA, ATi is dealing a knock-out here.


http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files...n_9500pro.shtml

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1756

http://www.tech-report.com/
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Old 11-27-02, 09:36 AM   #3
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As of today, ATI's GeForce4 Ti 4200 killer (the RADEON 9500 PRO) is ready for public consumption. However, not only is the RADEON 9500 PRO more than a match for the Ti 4200, it's also capable of outperforming NVIDIA's flagship GeForce4 Ti 4600 in some situations! If you're in the market for a new video card, you'll definitely want to check out today's review!
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Old 11-27-02, 09:49 AM   #4
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how much and where can i get one ?
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Old 11-27-02, 10:06 AM   #5
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Wow....

Basically, there is no reason to buy ANY nVidia card once the 9500 Pro becomes available... ATI has them beat everywhere.

For sure, this will force the prices of the GeForce4 ti down even further in hopes to compete.
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Old 11-27-02, 10:29 AM   #6
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Basically, there is no reason to buy ANY nVidia card once the 9500 Pro becomes available... ATI has them beat everywhere.
Well I agree with the numbers and based of numbers and features there is no contest any more. However you still have brand loyality and some pople wont care based off that. And thats fine. Also the driver thing, personally I have never had any serrious driver problem on ANY video card i have every owend. I have never had an issue that was bad enough to even warrent swapping out cards. I have had lots of minor issues with some things not working right or glictch with every card. But nothing that ever ruined my game play. But ATI still has a bad driver rap and I could see people staying away just cuze the think/hear/feel that their drivers are still bad. Personally I dont think they are bad at all but that is just my experince and every one is different...
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I hope they don't delay NV34 and NV 31 for too long, as we will start praying that Nvidia stays competitive...

All these delays/ NV30/ Nforce2/ Nforce... are almost to be concerned about.

And that Tech-Report article stated that many Nvidia engineers went back to SGI Why would that be? Too many 3DFX ones?
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now hopefully this makes nvidia realize they shouldn't limit the performance of the nv34 or nv30 mx counterpart.
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Old 11-27-02, 11:19 AM   #9
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For a sub 200 dollar card the 9500 Pro looks great.
Competitive to a Ti4600 and under 200 bucks.

"Here the Radeon 9500 Pro is slightly faster than a Ti 4600; you can thank the newdrivers for the 18% increase in performance over the original card we tested."
~AnandTech Review~


ATI and Driver performance INCREASES??? There must be snow in Hades.


Nvidia really has its work cut out for them.
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the 9500pro has all the ti's beat because of aa and af. i'm sure the performance part for nv30 should be very competitive.
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All i have to say is wow. ATI have really pulled it together with their 9xxx product line. I hate to admit it but i think i want a 9500 first, wait until the next GeforceFX revision comes along before i go back.
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Originally posted by Joe DeFuria
Wow....

Basically, there is no reason to buy ANY nVidia card once the 9500 Pro becomes available... ATI has them beat everywhere.

For sure, this will force the prices of the GeForce4 ti down even further in hopes to compete.
there was no reason to Buy the first radeon8500 , because
Nvidia GeForce3,Geforce3ti500,and Geforce4 were much faster ,
with much better drivers .

only months later of the Geforce4 release ,
the radeon8500 were good enough to compete with the Geforce3ti500 .

thanks to lower prices and for unknown reasons ,
people owned a radeon8500 .
ATi survived for a Full year!! without releasing any other competitive product.

So i think its safe to say ,Nvidia will be able to survive
for half the time ATI survived ..that is 6 months!! ,
until GeforceFX hits retails ...
with the already sucessfull Geforce4 ti200 ( $130 in pricewatch ) which overclocks VERY! easily with default heatsink/fan to GF4 ti4600 levels..

so in my opinion from $100-$150 the geforce4 ti200 IS
the card to get period. because is much faster than the radeon9500 at default speed ,and competitive and sometimes
faster than the (PRO version) when overcloked .


by the time DirectX9 titles are available ,the Nv30 and r300
will be the minimun required for all games.
Directx9 games is not in the horizon in 2-3 years .
lets cross fingers for Directx 8 games first!

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