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Old 08-04-04, 02:12 PM   #1
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Default The Official Whine And Moan About Doom 3 Thread

Since so many of you have decided that you want to bawl your eyes out about the most minute shortcomings the Doom 3 engine has, why don't you all complain right here instead of wasting time posting in other threads? You can all pretend like you're Bachelors of Computer Science and make completely irrational and erroneous comments about the game engine! You can throw around buzz words and terms you don't understand to compare it to the Far Cry engine! Hell, why don't you even make up problems that the engine doesn't even have! It'll be so much fun! I'll start.

I hate Doom 3. The lighting is ok I guess but Far Cry is better because it is outdoors. In Far Cry everything looks like it's encrusted in slime and this looks much better IMO. In Doom 3 every single texture has normal and specular maps and even though almost all of them are high res, there are a few that aren't so I am very disappointed. Far Cry has absolutely no low-res textures, especially not outdoors. Oh Doom 3 is dark and it's hard to see sometimes so it's not good. Shader Model 3.0 is in Far Cry and even though it provides absolutely no image quality boost I'll say it does because I'm a clueless retard. Don't forget Parallax Bump Mip Mapping and 3Dc STC3 DF AF filtering. Doom 3 has none of these. Also, even though Far Cry only runs good at these high settings on a behemoth system it has a better engine. Doom 3 sucks even though there is no noticable IQ loss at lower resolutions and detail settings, and runs great on video cards that are 2 generations old while losing none of its special effect features.

If I can pull anything else out of my ass I'll edit my post. Let's go to town!
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Old 08-04-04, 02:15 PM   #2
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Whine and Moan about Doom3 thread??? WHere am I ? what forum? this wouldn't happen to be rage3d forums would it?
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Doom3's engine is a better overall engine IMO, Netcode is great, runs well on a large variety of systems, and can produce very atmospheric environments.

FarCry however just uses later technology, which is good for the type of game farCry is... a techdemo, Doom3 is actually a game.

Features and IQ aren't the only factors in an engine. FarCry runs like dog **** even on my machine, but you have to admit it IS more advanced on paper.

But Doom3 runs well and looks great on my dads P3 1GHz, 512MB ram, and 64MB GeForce 3, I cannot say the same about FarCry.

Agreed?
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Umm....it almost made me wet my pants. Three times.

That's about it for now.
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but you have to admit it IS more advanced on paper.
No I don't, because it isn't.

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But Doom3 runs well and looks great on my dads P3 1GHz, 512MB ram, and 64MB GeForce 3, I cannot say the same about FarCry.

Agreed?
Yes I do agree, and this is one of the reasons the engine is so amazing - it scales ridiculously well without having to cripple the eye candy.
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So true, so true.
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I don't like it. With the 640 resolution at LOW detail, I only get maybe 30-40 fps average. FX5900SE, AMD 2600+, 512MB PC3200. I was kinda disapointed to see that. I upped it to 800 resolution with medium detail, and get about the same, but only when I turned off high detail special effects. I wanted at least a solid 50, and I can't even get that with the lowest settings

The light really annoys me. It's one thing to have bad aim, another to not even know where the freaking bad guy is. I'd like at least enough light to see the guy, and still enough darkness to add the creepy factor

The gameplay is ok so far, havn't gotton past the pistol and shotgun. But with the darkness, the lag, and the crazy monsters with major advantages over my pistol, I dunno if I really wanna. Waste of 50 bucks. Maybe E-bay is a better option than playing it...

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I don't like it. With the 640 resolution at LOW detail, I only get maybe 30-40 fps average. FX5900SE, AMD 2600+, 512MB PC3200. I was kinda disapointed to see that. I upped it to 800 resolution with medium detail, and get about the same, but only when I turned off high detail special effects. I wanted at least a solid 50, and I can't even get that with the lowest settings

The light really annoys me. It's one thing to have bad aim, another to not even know where the freaking bad guy is. I'd like at least enough light to see the guy, and still enough darkness to add the creepy factor

The gameplay is ok so far, havn't gotton past the pistol and shotgun. But with the darkness, the lag, and the crazy monsters with major advantages over my pistol, I dunno if I really wanna. Waste of 50 bucks. Maybe E-bay is a better option than playing it...

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thats strange i have a 5900xt same exact thing as i SE and my fps dont dip below 40, and this is at 1024*768 at medium details, all settings on including vsync
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the whole point of it being dark is so you cant see the badguy, and its a suprise when you get attacked, its also ment to be scary, would it really be that fun or scary or really add that much to the atmosphere, if the whole game had nothing but light areas and well lit rooms
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engine is great... game might even be better, and the graphics/lighting are excellent. they did **** up on texture resolution though, as everything has a bad texture resolution (not just some things); and the bumpmapping looks great, but at times i think they went a little bumpmapping crazy. no worries though, the end product is excellent, and by leaps and bounds the best over-all game to date; which means graphics and gameplay. matter of fact, i think it's the best in both areas, without regard to the other.
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Audio also. I HATE the audio. I was looking forward to good audio cause it runs off CPU, but it's all scratchy and sounds like Half Life 1 sounded

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kev13dd, what the hell kind of sound card/speaker setup do you have? This is the best sounding game I've ever played by FAR!

Once again texture resolution comes into play. I'm going to be taking a lot of screenshots when I get home from work so I can shut all you whiners up about it for good.
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