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Old 08-12-04, 10:14 AM   #25
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Not that it looks like a bad card or anything...but you still can't find the 6800 GT or Ultra in any sort of quantity whatsoever, especially at MSRP. I'd rather they concentrate on making the cards they "launched" almost 6 months ago available to consumers than "releasing" yet another part I'll never see.

What difference does it make if they "won this round" if you can't even get the d*mn cards?
I can appreciate your frustration regarding availability. However, many people are finding GTs and Ultras to be more and more available. The memory shortage had a lot to do with this I'm sure and this is not a problem reserved to NVIDIA (see ATI's X800XT PE for example). In other words, there is no singular cause or source of blame. Knowing this, I'm glad to see NVIDIA not dragging their feet but rather pressing on with newer tech. Keep in mind also that NVIDIA does not make the cards themselves of course, so to say that they should "concentrate on making the cards" isn't really accurate.
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Old 08-12-04, 10:44 AM   #26
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Hmmm, the 6800 Looks like the card for my cheep friend who wants to play doom3, but dosent want to spend more than 100$ on a video card, maybe he will make the stretch for it.
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Old 08-12-04, 11:08 AM   #27
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As I understand things currently the 6800 series only has decoding functionality while the 6600 series has both decoding and encoding. More details will come from NVIDIA on this in the coming days/weeks.
I thought when the 6800 launched nvidia said it could encode and decode with it's on-chip vpu? that would realy bite if the 6600 has beter features than the 6800 snce we are paying 2x as mutch for a 6800.
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Old 08-12-04, 11:11 AM   #28
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I thought when the 6800 launched nvidia said it could encode and decode with it's on-chip vpu? that would realy bite if the 6600 has beter features than the 6800 snce we are paying 2x as mutch for a 6800.
I wouldn't whip out the "lame" sign just yet. Again, more details are forthcoming.
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Old 08-12-04, 11:54 AM   #29
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I was looking forward to see NVidia's new midrange offering but, now that it has been officially announced, I'm kind of disappointed:

128MB only: looking at the pics, it seems that the reference design does not allow more than 4 memory chips on the GT.Since the trend in videogames is for more and more video memory to store larger texture and vertex data, 128Mb for a midrange card does not seem future proof to me, esepecially if the card already has the potential to use high resolutions or anti-aliasing.

Absolute lack of info on the AGP part: seriously, how many PCIe boards do they think the market can absorb? Right now, the only PCIe platform available is based on the i9xx chipset and it's still showing teething problems. It is safe to assume that they won't appear in numbers before 2005. Besides, how many people are going to purchase the latest and hottest piece of technology to use a midrange card ?
Less silicon, less memory.
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Old 08-12-04, 12:30 PM   #30
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It has been said in other previews that the chip can support up to 256MB of ram, but that will be up to the board manufacturers. Even some of the mainstream/low end GFFX boards shipped with 256MB of ram, so it may be very likely that some cards will have 256MB. But perhaps not right away.

There's room for 8 memory chips on the board - the back side of many cards have had ram on them as well. The chips shown in the picture are 256 mega bit which = 32MB. 4*32 on the front + 4*32 on the back = 256MB.
It's stated in the review that it's only 128MB of RAM. The 6600 will have DDR1 and the 6600GT will have DDR3.

On a side note, 2 of these cards will take up the same amount of space as 1 6800 Ultra.
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Apparently there will be 256MB variant of GeForce 6600 (NV43), not that it will bring significant performance advantage ....

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While we're on the subject, I should mention that NV43 supports up to 256MB of memory. 128MB implementations will probably be the norm, but board vendors have a habit of offering boards with more memory to differentiate themselves from the competition. In the past, mid-range graphics cards with 256MB of memory haven't been much faster than 128MB cards.
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Old 08-12-04, 01:04 PM   #32
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There will be a decisive advantage in those games which pack lots of hi-resolution textures. Playing at 1024x768 @ 4x AA takes up to 28MB of video memory for the framebuffers.

Even on my low end PC I can play most of the time UT200x comfortably at 1024x768 @ 4X AA (as I did with my now defunct GF4Ti) But, in certain situations and with certain maps, UT200x is said to use up to 150MB of video memory for the textures and mesh data alone. No doubt this is a "worst case" scenario but, as I said, newer games are even more demanding...
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Old 08-12-04, 02:27 PM   #33
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Nice cards that will improve mainstream performance quite a bit. I´m very glad that X600 type cards will be pushed to low end since Ati has to counter these cards with X800 derivates (X800SE?). As for the video compression improvements, I´ve been hearing these don´t do much if anything at all on current 6800 cards, have they been really fixed in these parts? SLI sounds nice but since you won´t get double performance and you are "wasting" memory by dividing it between two cards. It´s hard to tell how attractive this option will be for 6600 cards, it will come down to price/performance ratio.

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currently there arnt any pci-e chipsets out for the AMD platform. will they have to come up with there own version of SLi as well?
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Old 08-12-04, 03:06 PM   #35
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currently there arnt any pci-e chipsets out for the AMD platform. will they have to come up with there own version of SLi as well?
IIRC, nForce4 motherboards will be PCIe and should be out by the end of the year perhaps?

Some older info regarding AMD and PCIe
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15432
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...5E9834,00.html
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Old 08-12-04, 03:11 PM   #36
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Are there still plans for having PCIe boards with an AGP slot along with the PCIe version of AGP (I can't remember if it's x16 or 16x)?
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