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Old 09-01-04, 02:05 PM   #37
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Default Re: Was the FX series a failure?

In my personal opinion, yes it was a failure. I so wanted to return to Nvidia after using my 9700 Pro but the DirectX game performance numbers I saw scared me away. While I wouldn't call slow it just wasn't near the performance of the 9800 Pro at the time I was looking at one and the IQ wasn't what I expected either.

All is forgiven however as I think Nvidia redeemed themselves with the 6800 series.
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Old 09-01-04, 02:15 PM   #38
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No , i think the FX series were not a failure . because they played most of the games that released in thier timeline very good & gave acceptable performance & IQ generally .
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Old 09-01-04, 02:49 PM   #39
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Default Re: Was the FX series a failure?

it's hard to say a whole series is a failure or not....

fx5200 with 64bit memory bus (or pci version) = failure
fx5700u = winnar
fx5800u = winnar if you like noise
fx5900xt/le = winnar, these babies overclock quite nicely
fx5900u = loosar
fx5950u = despirate attempt to make previous loosar into winar, one in which failed

ah, you win some you loose some IMO. the only reason i say the fx5900u and the fx5950u's were failures is not because so much of performance, but the price of them was just completely outragous. even when the 6800's came out the prices were still over $350, that's just obsurd.
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Old 09-01-04, 02:53 PM   #40
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I wouldn't call the FX a failure, but it really didn't live up to the expectations.

I have a 5900 flashed to 5950u and I'm satisfied with its performance in every game I played, even far cry (which I really didn't like that much) and of course Doom3 (better than farcry IMO).

Clearly the worst part of the fx line is its dx9 performance, it was one of its most touted features and really didn't measure well with ATI.

"fortunately" for nvidia by the time dx9 titles are coming out they have a great replacement. The 6600 GT and 6800, seem like a nice upgrade from my 5900 and by the time I replace my card (by christmas most likely) I may even afford to get a 6800GT
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Old 09-01-04, 03:23 PM   #41
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it's hard to say a whole series is a failure or not....

fx5200 with 64bit memory bus (or pci version) = failure
fx5700u = winnar
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I wouldn't call the 5700U a winner. It was/is priced the same as the FX5900XT for so long yet the FX5900XT outperforms it. A very silly idea in my opinion. The FX5700NU on the otherhand was a sweet deal at $130 because many overclock well. 5700NU is good for the money, 5700U is not.

And you forgot to mention the FX5200U. Less than $100 and it perform decent in most games as I mentioned earlier. Obviously not an ideal card, but acceptable provided you don't play above 1024x768 or use AA/AF.
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Old 09-01-04, 03:30 PM   #42
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I'd say the higher end FX line 5900U, XT and 5950U were a failure in that they werent prepared for the next generation of games that use bump mapping and shaders like halo (that was released while FX5950U was gearing for release), far cry and bfv.

So forking out 600$ a year ago for a card that was basically out of date for these new games makes it a bit of failure. But the competition didnt do much better and you might also say those games were ahead of their time.

I went from Ti4200 -> FX5950U -> 6800GT and I get the same warm feeling from the 6800GT like I did from my Ti4200.. jaw dropping FPS, and worth every penny. And I got about half the price of the 6800GT out of selling my 5950 so it wasnt a total loss there either.
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Old 09-01-04, 03:44 PM   #43
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I wasusing a 5800Ultra between March and June, and had no issues with it whatsoever. I traded my 9800Pro for it.
Though I agree that it's not worth talking negatively about the FX series after Nvidia has released the wonderful and superior 6800 and 6600 series, I do not understand that you traded a 9800Pro for a 5800Ultra
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You all keep defending your purshase which is so Bias , it was a failure to Nvidia and that is why

1. It missed dead line and first NV30 was released way later then R300 ( Nvidia lost customers )
2. Nvidia received negative views from alot of people remember Dustbuster cartoons ?
3. Performed slower then excpected bad PR alot of lies remember ?,
4. Even Nvidia them selfs buryed all info regarding NV30 (5800) you woun't find it anymore at nvidia.com .

Later revisions were improvements but still lacking power and finess , so if its not a success for company must be a failure , at time competition had better card plain and simple why denie it remember we compareing Nvidia to ATI not some hopeless 3rd party companys XGI .. ect.

Defending the purchases? Dont start down this road again DVS, The Nv3x Series was not perfect, But if you listen to some people here you'd believe it couldnt play games at all. Even in DX 8.1 mode (Which looks surprisingly similar to the DX 9.0 Path) The Nv3x is gliding along in HL2,

The NV35/36 series doubled the FP power of the the original cards, Though it still fell behind it was hardly the bomb. If the Nv35 came out first, the FX series probably would have been much better recieved.

And no, We arent comparing just ATI to Nvidia, We are comparing a product to every other product currently in existence, and Dollars to the price performance. The 5900XT line was enormously popular, Why? Because it was a great value for money.
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In my personal opinion, yes it was a failure. I so wanted to return to Nvidia after using my 9700 Pro but the DirectX game performance numbers I saw scared me away. While I wouldn't call slow it just wasn't near the performance of the 9800 Pro at the time I was looking at one and the IQ wasn't what I expected either.

All is forgiven however as I think Nvidia redeemed themselves with the 6800 series.
Hmm

What DirectX games were you playing when you were considering the 5900 vs 9800P purchase that the 5900 didn't run well?
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Though I agree that it's not worth talking negatively about the FX series after Nvidia has released the wonderful and superior 6800 and 6600 series, I do not understand that you traded a 9800Pro for a 5800Ultra
I was bored with the 9800Pro, and it's no where near as cool of a card as the 5800U.
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woulda been easier to have a poll here
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I agree Polls would couse less flame wars probably , personaly i totaly hate FX line if i had a stick and saw one id smack it
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