Go the 5200

antman1005 · 09-23-04, 09:20 PM

Hi guys,
I just wanted to say I bought a Albatron 5200 EP 128MB. I am so happy with its performance, I payed $100 NZD (66.6056 USD) for it. It runs doom 3 playable on Medium and all other games. I'm upgrading to a 6800GT soon, but I just want to say if anyone has a low budget, go the FX5200 LOL

Gator · 09-23-04, 09:50 PM

Ya it gets a bad reputation, but when paired with a fast CPU the FX5200U can perform pretty decent. Obviously it's benchmarks leave much to be desired, but in real world games it gets the job done provided you don't care about AA/AF. I played UT2K3 on my father's Athlon64 3000 w/ FX5200U and it was very smooth at 1024x768

I'm glad you're happy with your purchase.

msxyz · 09-24-04, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Gator

Ya it gets a bad reputation, but when paired with a fast CPU the FX5200U can perform pretty decent. Obviously it's benchmarks leave much to be desired, but in real world games it gets the job done provided you don't care about AA/AF. I played UT2K3 on my father's Athlon64 3000 w/ FX5200U and it was very smooth at 1024x768

The 5200 should have been an excellent DX 8 card. Even without Intellisample the performance hit when anabling aniso/AA is smaller than in the NV2x generation of cards. The limited ability to elaborate 4Z/stencil may be useful in games that make heavy use of stencil/soft shadows

Too bad NVidia decided to include only one FP shader unit while implementing FX12 in both pipelines. The result is that upon switching from PS 1.1 to 1.4/2.0 the performance is halved

superklye · 09-24-04, 11:37 AM

The GF4 Ti line was better.

CaptNKILL · 09-24-04, 11:54 AM

Everyones probably heard this already, but I had a 5600 256Mb and it was a total piece of crap. Vietcong was unplayable on that thing at anything over 800x600 with medium details, where as my 4400 and 9600 pro could play at very high details smoothly. In BF1942 my 5600 choaked at 1024x768 max details and 4xAF. My 4400 (which supposedly took a huge hit from AA\AF) could run at 1024x768 8xAF smoothly (my 9600 Pro could run at 1280x960 with 4xAA and 8xAF). Also, the optimizations that were enabled at the time made games look absolutely terrible.

Im glad your happy with your 5200... but I dont think ill ever recommend an FX card. Id consider a 5900, but nothing less. No way.

ragejg · 09-24-04, 02:21 PM

I'd recommend a 5200 if it was for $25, a 5200U if it was for $40... a 5600XT for $45, a 5600 for $50, a 5600U for $60, a 5700LE for $65, a 5700NU for $80 (they're worth it IMO)...

In the sub $60 area I stick with GF4ti or GF3... they're still worth the money...

CaptNKILL · 09-24-04, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ragejg

I'd recommend a 5200 if it was for $25, a 5200U if it was for $40... a 5600XT for $45, a 5600 for $50, a 5600U for $60, a 5700LE for $65, a 5700NU for $80 (they're worth it IMO)...

In the sub $60 area I stick with GF4ti or GF3... they're still worth the money...

I agree. The performance of the 5600 sucked, but in the right price range it would be a better value. At the time I had mine the card was worth about $160 retail (mostly because of the 256Mb memory)... which is totaly obsurd considering the 9600 pro was only $145 (actually mine was $138+shipping).

ill go see how much 5600s are now... if they are a penny over $60 im gonna kick some ass

Subtestube · 09-24-04, 06:36 PM

Mmmm.. it's very true... the 5700 was actually a pretty damn fly card. For non gamers I think the 5200 was also not really a bad card. It was just so weak if you actually tried to used the features it had. Anyhow... as a matter of interest Antman (I'm in NZ also), how much are you paying for your 6800 GT?

recce41 · 09-25-04, 01:20 PM

I have a Apollo FX 5600XT 256m. After 66.32 drivers and a lil tweaking. Il2 and some other games run a high to prefect. It's not OCed because it has no fan. But that is what comes with the system I bought (1052$ Cdn). My system got a few thumbs down here. But I'm not money bag and have kids in school. For me it's cheaper to get this system and add a stick a ram, upgrade the CPU to a 3200 and a VC after. I could trade the CPU and use the VC in my 700 AMD, it has a TNT 2 M64. I use 66.32 Vds and 5.10 NV all in one
Wnd XP Home
AMD 2500XP+~1.8G
ABIT NF7 MB
512 DDR 3200
Apollo 5600XT 256m
LG DVD combo
80G Samsung HD 7200
350 W PSU

antman1005 · 09-25-04, 05:57 PM

Hey guys interesting stuff

Yea im geting my 6800 from the wholesaler :P I think i'm paying $699 for it. Is that cheap?I havnt realy checked out the prices for 6800. The only problem is that the place im getting it from only sells albatron for Nvidia and saphire or sumthing 4 Radeon.

aaahhh52 · 09-25-04, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antman1005

Hey guys interesting stuff

Yea im geting my 6800 from the wholesaler :P I think i'm paying $699 for it. Is that cheap?I havnt realy checked out the prices for 6800. The only problem is that the place im getting it from only sells albatron for Nvidia and saphire or sumthing 4 Radeon.

Subtestube · 09-26-04, 12:04 AM

Man! That's REALLY cheap if that's in NZ dollars. What wholesaler exactly are we talking? BDT or Rennaisance? And what brand is this GT? Fantastic deal. Most 6800 NUs are retailling for between $600 - 660 NZ (I paid 660, but mine's passively cooled, which is nice if you like that sorta thing).

The cheapest GT retail value is (as far as I can see) NZ$790.

Erm.. just check www.pricespy.co.nz for comparison.

09-23-04, 09:20 PM	#1
antman1005 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 4	Go the 5200 Hi guys, I just wanted to say I bought a Albatron 5200 EP 128MB. I am so happy with its performance, I payed $100 NZD (66.6056 USD) for it. It runs doom 3 playable on Medium and all other games. I'm upgrading to a 6800GT soon, but I just want to say if anyone has a low budget, go the FX5200 LOL

09-23-04, 09:50 PM	#2
Gator Unreal Tournament Gamer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 2,279	Re: Go the 5200 Ya it gets a bad reputation, but when paired with a fast CPU the FX5200U can perform pretty decent. Obviously it's benchmarks leave much to be desired, but in real world games it gets the job done provided you don't care about AA/AF. I played UT2K3 on my father's Athlon64 3000 w/ FX5200U and it was very smooth at 1024x768 I'm glad you're happy with your purchase. __________________ Athlon64 3200 Clawhammer / Asus K8N-E Deluxe / 1GB Crucial DDR400 / Geforce 6600GT 128MB AGP / Windows XP Pro

09-24-04, 11:37 AM	#4
superklye Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MKE Posts: 13,629	Re: Go the 5200 The GF4 Ti line was better.

09-24-04, 11:54 AM	#5
CaptNKILL CUBE Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 18,844	Re: Go the 5200 Everyones probably heard this already, but I had a 5600 256Mb and it was a total piece of crap. Vietcong was unplayable on that thing at anything over 800x600 with medium details, where as my 4400 and 9600 pro could play at very high details smoothly. In BF1942 my 5600 choaked at 1024x768 max details and 4xAF. My 4400 (which supposedly took a huge hit from AA\AF) could run at 1024x768 8xAF smoothly (my 9600 Pro could run at 1280x960 with 4xAA and 8xAF). Also, the optimizations that were enabled at the time made games look absolutely terrible. Im glad your happy with your 5200... but I dont think ill ever recommend an FX card. Id consider a 5900, but nothing less. No way. __________________ ---- Primary Rig ---- CoolerMaster 690 II Advance - Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 4.0Ghz + Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme 6GB DDR2 @ 942Mhz 5-5-5-20 1.9v (2x1Gb Wintec AMPX PC2-8500 & 2x2Gb G.Skill PC2-6400) - EVGA Geforce GTX 470 @ 750/1500/1850 (1.050v) Sparkle Geforce GTS 250 1Gb Low-Profile (Physx) - Crucial RealSSD C300 64Gb SSD - Seagate 7200.12 500Gb SATA - Seagate 7200.10 320Gb SATA ASUS VW266H 25.5" LCD - OCZ GameXStream 700W PSU - ASUS Xonar DX - Logitech Z-5500 5.1 Surround - Windows 7 Professional x64 ---- HTPC ---- Asus M3A78-EM 780G - AMD Athlon X2 5050e 45W @ 2.6Ghz - 2x2GB Kingston PC2-6400 DDR2 - Sparkle 350W PSU Seagate 7200.10 320Gb SATA - Seagate 7200.10 250Gb SATA - Athenatech A100BB.350 MicroATX Desktop - Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic

09-24-04, 02:21 PM	#6
ragejg nV News Alumni Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finger Lakes of Hell, NY Posts: 5,399	Re: Go the 5200 I'd recommend a 5200 if it was for $25, a 5200U if it was for $40... a 5600XT for $45, a 5600 for $50, a 5600U for $60, a 5700LE for $65, a 5700NU for $80 (they're worth it IMO)... In the sub $60 area I stick with GF4ti or GF3... they're still worth the money... __________________ 2010-2011 Reviews: GTX 570 \| GTX 580 \| GTS 450 \| GTX 460 \| GTX 465 Pre-2010 Reviews: 6600 GT \| XMS 4400 DDR \| SilenX Cooler \| 6800 \| 5900 XT \| Personal Cinema \| 5900 NU ______________________________________________ Phenom II x6 1090t @ 4.0 ghz \| Asus M498TD-EVO Am3 SLI nForce 980a \| 2x EVGA GTX 560 SLI \| 2x4gb DDR3-1333 \| Antec EarthWatts EA650 PSU \| 60gb Mushkin Calisto Enhanced Sandforce SSD \| 2x WD2500KS RAID 0 \| Sunbeam Tuniq 3 case \| 24" Asus 19x10 LED LCD \| 26" Panasonic 720p TV \| Sidewinder X5 mouse \| Logitech MX5500 & Revolution mouse \| Altec Lansing 5.1 THX-Certified audio \| Win 7 Ultimate \| desk \| couch "Stars must die so that I may live. I... stepped out of a Supernova."

09-24-04, 06:36 PM	#8
Subtestube Anisymbolic Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 1,365	Re: Go the 5200 Mmmm.. it's very true... the 5700 was actually a pretty damn fly card. For non gamers I think the 5200 was also not really a bad card. It was just so weak if you actually tried to used the features it had. Anyhow... as a matter of interest Antman (I'm in NZ also), how much are you paying for your 6800 GT? __________________ Dr Possible: Core 2 Duo E6400 on Gigabyte GA-965P-DS4. Galaxy GeForce 7600GT. 2GB Corsair XMS 2 DDR2-6400 RAM (CL5). ATi Theatre 550 Pro. Windows XP MCE. All stored in Piano black Antec Sonata II, with a broken door. Mobile: ASUS M2400N, Pentium M 1.5 GHz. 512 MB DDR RAM. Intel EXTREME graphics. Windows XP SP 2 / Ubuntu 5.10. Ridiculous DOES not have an 'e' in it. It comes from "ridicule" and has less than nothing to do with the colour red.

09-25-04, 01:20 PM	#9
recce41 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 8	Re: Go the 5200 I have a Apollo FX 5600XT 256m. After 66.32 drivers and a lil tweaking. Il2 and some other games run a high to prefect. It's not OCed because it has no fan. But that is what comes with the system I bought (1052$ Cdn). My system got a few thumbs down here. But I'm not money bag and have kids in school. For me it's cheaper to get this system and add a stick a ram, upgrade the CPU to a 3200 and a VC after. I could trade the CPU and use the VC in my 700 AMD, it has a TNT 2 M64. I use 66.32 Vds and 5.10 NV all in one Wnd XP Home AMD 2500XP+~1.8G ABIT NF7 MB 512 DDR 3200 Apollo 5600XT 256m LG DVD combo 80G Samsung HD 7200 350 W PSU __________________ Canadian Soldier, 26 yrs in. Some computer knowledge, not a Guru. Enjoy all games. Wnd XP Home AMD 2500XP+~1.8G ABIT NF7 MB 512 DDR 3200 Apollo 5600XT 256m LG DVD combo 80G Samsung HD 7200 350 W PSU

09-25-04, 05:57 PM	#10
antman1005 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 4	Re: Go the 5200 Hey guys interesting stuff Yea im geting my 6800 from the wholesaler :P I think i'm paying $699 for it. Is that cheap?I havnt realy checked out the prices for 6800. The only problem is that the place im getting it from only sells albatron for Nvidia and saphire or sumthing 4 Radeon.

09-26-04, 12:04 AM	#12
Subtestube Anisymbolic Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 1,365	Re: Go the 5200 Man! That's REALLY cheap if that's in NZ dollars. What wholesaler exactly are we talking? BDT or Rennaisance? And what brand is this GT? Fantastic deal. Most 6800 NUs are retailling for between $600 - 660 NZ (I paid 660, but mine's passively cooled, which is nice if you like that sorta thing). The cheapest GT retail value is (as far as I can see) NZ$790. Erm.. just check www.pricespy.co.nz for comparison. __________________ Dr Possible: Core 2 Duo E6400 on Gigabyte GA-965P-DS4. Galaxy GeForce 7600GT. 2GB Corsair XMS 2 DDR2-6400 RAM (CL5). ATi Theatre 550 Pro. Windows XP MCE. All stored in Piano black Antec Sonata II, with a broken door. Mobile: ASUS M2400N, Pentium M 1.5 GHz. 512 MB DDR RAM. Intel EXTREME graphics. Windows XP SP 2 / Ubuntu 5.10. Ridiculous DOES not have an 'e' in it. It comes from "ridicule" and has less than nothing to do with the colour red.

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