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Old 09-24-04, 11:03 PM   #25
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Default Re: My run-in with a console boy

Wait, 2 yrs ago in the ti4600 days we could say that the Xbox puses more polys, right? And that's about it...

... right?

And I'd have to believe that it doesn't hold true anymore...

... right?
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Old 09-24-04, 11:11 PM   #26
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Yer fiance sounds teh hottttttt.
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Old 09-24-04, 11:29 PM   #27
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World needs all kind of people or else it would be very boreing
All kinds, but not that kind of people. Certain 'kinds' should be eleminated wholesale, because they only detract from the experience.

And PCs have always been better gaming platforms than consoles, the only issues are:
Stability
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Repeated Upgrades for New Games.

On the other hand, PC games are cheaper, longer and can often be modded. All in all I'd rather buy HL2 and get dozens of mods than to buy an X-Box game for the same price and get jack. Of course if some console maker would actually make a decent console system that's upgradeable (set components for stability) then consoles might start competing in terms of capacity.
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Old 09-24-04, 11:37 PM   #28
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Playing Halo on a PC probably WOULD give you the impression that the Xbox is more powerful...
Plug a GF3 into a 1.4ghz AthlonXP rig, with 256mb SDRAM... hook it to the TV. Dial your picture qality in and play @ 640x480. Turn everything on. Heck give it a bit of AF too, maybe 2x. Then say that again.
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Old 09-24-04, 11:57 PM   #29
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If i were you i wouldent walk out until he explains to me how :

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"ah pc sucks anyways...xbox has twice the power of a PC"


yes i'm not married so i have the time to argue till the next morning

already had an argument with a guy claimed that his friend's FX5200 can run Unreal 2 @1024x768 ,8xAA,8xAF very smooth ( ) so this one should be no problem .
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Old 09-25-04, 12:00 AM   #30
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u should have slapped him silly
You should have seen his argument. He said the 5600U was better because it had an Ultra at the end.
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Old 09-25-04, 12:03 AM   #31
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You should have seen his argument. He said the 5600U was better because it had an Ultra at the end.
I take that back...u shouldn't have slapped im..u should have 'ed him. Honestly he would have 100% deserved it
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Old 09-25-04, 12:15 AM   #32
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Of course if some console maker would actually make a decent console system that's upgradeable (set components for stability) then consoles might start competing in terms of capacity.
Ugh, that would be horrible. It was bad enough with the N64 where the expansion pack was mandatory for some games, but what would happen when you get 2, 3 upgrades for a console and each are interminglable? It would defeat the entire purpose of having a fixed platform, and you'd end up with a unit that you'd NEED to upgrade in order to take advantage of the newest games. Plus, developers would probably get very lazy and inefficient when programming games, they would have to focus more efforts on compatability rather than optimising it for the low end, and as a result games running on anything less than the newest upgrade would look worse than they would if it was a fixed platform. And it totally defeats the equality of playing online with consoles: the entire point is that every person is playing the game at the same framerate and using the same control method with the same graphics. I'm plenty happy with the current 4-5 year cycle for consoles. They might start to look outdated in the 3rd or 4th year, but I'd rather pay $200-$300 for a console and have it look a little outdated later on than having to pay an extra $200-$300 during it's lifetime in order to keep playing every game released for the platform.

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Plug a GF3 into a 1.4ghz AthlonXP rig, with 256mb SDRAM... hook it to the TV. Dial your picture qality in and play @ 640x480. Turn everything on. Heck give it a bit of AF too, maybe 2x. Then say that again.
I donno about that, playing Doom 3 and Halo on my XP2000/ti4200 resulted in some VERY low framerates, even at 800x600 with AA/AF off. If I compared them to the Xbox equivalent, I doubt the PC would seem much better (though the Xbox version of Doom 3 doesn't look nearly as good as the PC version, but it seems to run at a better framerate than I got most of the time, and that was with a better computer than your example). They've managed to get pretty efficient with consoles (have you seen Resident Evil 4 or Gran Tourismo 4? Damn those look good for being on such horribly outdated hardware), and with certain high-end PC component prices on the rise it doesn't suprise me that the average console game would look better than the average PC game on "average" hardware (and for god's sake, would PC manufacturers PLEASE at least put a damn fx5200 in their computers? Intel Extreme graphics do NOT cut it anymore, especially when there's no AGP slot on the motherboard!). Now playing on a 3ghz computer with a 6600gt card in it, NOW we're talking!
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You should have seen his argument. He said the 5600U was better because it had an Ultra at the end.
You should answered him that number 5900 is > than 5600

thats the best way to deal with idiots .
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Yeah, but then those people would come back with "Oh, so the 9200 is better than the 6800?"
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Yeah, but then those people would come back with "Oh, so the 9200 is better than the 6800?"
Well since we are talking about store employees then told him "thats right ! now drop the price for all 6800s silly" !
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What also upsets me is when someone tries to argue the fact that the XBOX is more powerful than the PS2. First off the processor on the Xbox is 733mhz (= P3) which is more than twice as powerful as the ps2's 266mhz (emotion engine = P2). Second you have a DX8 Geforce 3 in the xbox vs. the DX7 Radeon VE in the PS2. The Xbox also has more memory 64mb vs. 32mb. The xbox has so much more potential than the PS2 due to it's programmable shaders.

*sigh*

Now onto the PC vs. Console thing. If anyone even dares to say my PC inferior to a console I would go off the wall on them. Hell I would even go as far as to say that the next gen consoles wont be able to match the power of my PC.
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