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Old 09-30-04, 10:34 AM   #205
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I agree with you guys that the A64 is destroying the P4 chips in this bench. I'm finding that a P4 with a similarly clocked GT has to be about 1.4ghz faster than my A64 in order to achieve similar results (saw a P4 at 4ghz score a tad higher than my A64 at 2563).

What seems odd is that people are saying overclocking their CPU gives little benefit. I think it's possible that CPU speed may not play a major role but perhaps the memory bandwidth and low latency of the A64 is playing a big role.

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Old 09-30-04, 10:38 AM   #206
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I agree with you guys that the A64 is destroying the P4 chips in this bench. I'm finding that a P4 with a similarly clocked GT has to be about 1.4ghz faster than my A64 in order to achieve similar results (saw a P4 at 4ghz score a tad higher than my A64 at 2563).

What seems odd is that people are saying overclocking their CPU gives little benefit. I think it's possible that CPU speed may not play a major role but perhaps the memory bandwidth and low latency of the A64 is playing a big role.

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It's easy Warden. Drop your GT down to 425/1.10, leave your CPU where it is and bench. Then raise your video card back up to 460 and drop your CPU down to default, bench. Observe differences.

The last score I saw from JakUp was 5824, what AMD with a GT/Ultra at 460 or less is 'destroying' this?
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Old 09-30-04, 11:42 AM   #207
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It's easy Warden. Drop your GT down to 425/1.10, leave your CPU where it is and bench. Then raise your video card back up to 460 and drop your CPU down to default, bench. Observe differences.

The last score I saw from JakUp was 5824, what AMD with a GT/Ultra at 460 or less is 'destroying' this?
Jakup's GPU is running 9mhz slower than mine but his memory is 46mhz faster than mine. His P4 is running with a 247 FSB vs 233 on my A64 and he is running nearly 1200 mhz faster tha my CPU (2568 vs 3715) yet I'm scoring nearly 300 points higher than him. In this bench, 300 points is significant, it's not like getting an extra 300 points in 2k01. I may be wrong since I haven't tested but I don't think 9mhz will add 300 points to a score, and again, he has me beat by 46mhz on his memory so he's getting higher bandwidth.

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Old 09-30-04, 11:46 AM   #208
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Gave the 66.70 a run and got 5228

Come on Nvidia - give me some 3D mark 05 drivers

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=34569
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The mighty machine clocks in with a ... 999
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Old 09-30-04, 12:30 PM   #210
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66.70 Driver

Tweaks=No AA|AF set in driver panel, high performance driver settings.
No Tweaks=AA|AF application controlled, Quality driver settings.

CPU at flat 3.8
5544 440|1.15 tweaks
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=34596
5382 425|1.10 tweaks
5246 425|1.10 no tweaks


Cpu at flat 3.5
5505 440|1.15 tweaks
5217 425|1.10 no tweaks

5544-5217= 327 for total score differences low to high.

Actual FPS differences between the best score and the lowest:

Game Tests
GT1 - Return To Proxycon
(fps) 22.4 vs 24.0


GT2 - Firefly Forest
(fps) 15.2 vs 16.1


GT3 - Canyon Flight
(fps) 26.7 vs 28.2


I have all of these saved and can only publish one at a time.

EDIT:
Final Note, Quality driver settings, AA|AF Application controlled, entire system at stock speed
= 5118.
CPU left at 3.0 and video card OC'ed with the "tweaks"
=5376.

Thus demonstrating how I can beat my legit 3.8 score with a 3.0c and "tweaking".
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Old 09-30-04, 12:37 PM   #211
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Jakup's GPU is running 9mhz slower than mine but his memory is 46mhz faster than mine. His P4 is running with a 247 FSB vs 233 on my A64 and he is running nearly 1200 mhz faster tha my CPU (2568 vs 3715) yet I'm scoring nearly 300 points higher than him. In this bench, 300 points is significant, it's not like getting an extra 300 points in 2k01. I may be wrong since I haven't tested but I don't think 9mhz will add 300 points to a score, and again, he has me beat by 46mhz on his memory so he's getting higher bandwidth.

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You have a great rig. I would be interested in seeing your score with AA/AF application controlled and driver at quality settings, card frequencies 425/1.10 if it wouldn't trouble you.

The difference between my untweaked score at 3.8 and my tweaked score is 298points. Tweaks= AA/AF defeated, high performance driver setting, and 440/1.15 OC. Untweaked= AA/AF application controlled, quality driver settings, video card default frequencies.
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Old 09-30-04, 12:38 PM   #212
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I've just downloaded 3DMark 05 free edition:

It scores an incredible... 703 points on my system

Sometime in the next weekend, I'm gonna try it with a Gainward FX5200 with 6nS RAM (DDR333) for a good laugh.
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Old 09-30-04, 12:43 PM   #213
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You have a great rig. I would be interested in seeing your score with AA/AF application controlled and driver at quality settings, card frequencies 425/1.10 if it wouldn't trouble you.
AA/AF were app controlled on that run but I'll try and do a run at 425/1100 for you tonight.

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AA/AF were app controlled on that run but I'll try and do a run at 425/1100 for you tonight.

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Thank you for humoring me. Please be sure to use "quality" over high performance. I have a post a few up that shows my system with and without tweaks/OC on my video card. I can't help but be curious how bad I am beaten when our systems have the same video settings/frequencies.
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3740
Seems low for me.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=8978

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61.77 video
5.10 mobo

windows xp with sp2 and all updates.

I have a duel monitor setup, had the other monitor running. I left all the quality settings at "Highest quality", and "application prefference".

Should I expect more? What drivers should I try?
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