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Old 10-01-04, 01:56 AM   #1
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I was browsing on newegg and came across this lil nugget.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...170-048&depa=1

Is this the same GPU that's in the original 5900's? Wow, that 2-slot fan shrunk.

I think I might need a cheap replacement. I have an old 5900 with the dustbuster fan on it and it's starting to act up. If I let it run on WinXP drivers I get vertical lines across the screen and if i load the latest forceware drivers into it, my monitor says something like "Monitor fine, PC operating outside of limits" and then the monitor turns itself off.

I can see the post screen (with lines) and the XP loading screen (no lines) but after that it goes south.

The case is a well ventillated lian-li (7 fans) and the PSU is one of those X-connect 500watt'ers.
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Old 10-01-04, 03:08 AM   #2
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You could probably get a 6600 GT for that price, when they become available in a month or so.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/..._6600_gt_peek/
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5900 and 5900XT are not the same thing. The XT version is a little slower. here is a good chart for GPU specs, it'll show you the difference in core speeds, pipelines, memory speed, etc, and the more of all that the better.

I would advise against purchasing an FX card at this time though, the affordable and far more powerful 6600 series will be available soon, or if nothing else I'd sooner recommend a 6800NU.
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Old 10-01-04, 12:41 PM   #4
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Very nice looking. That connector in the 6600 looks like an AGP pro connection, which my mobo lacks.

Doh!

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Also, any clue why my monitor won't show the display unless i'm using WinXP drivers (and even then with vertical lines)?
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I have an XFX 5900XT. It's memory is faster than most 5900xx cards. I believe it's 2.2ns. I can run it a 975mhz issue free.

IMO it's better to have less of the fast stuff than more of the slow stuff.

It depends on the manufacturer. It's impossible to say that a 5900nu is better than a 5900XT.

Clearly some of the 5900XT's possess higher memory configurations than other 5900xx cards. Couple this with the fact all 5900xx cards are obviously NV35 GPU, you can get pretty fast 5900XT's for a really low price.

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Old 10-01-04, 01:01 PM   #6
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5900 and 5900XT are not the same thing. The XT version is a little slower. here is a good chart for GPU specs,
I think this chart is a little misleading.
FX 5900SE and XT are not the same thing.

The core is 390mhz for the 5900XT. 400mhz for the 5900SE is default. Not that it matters, they're all good for 450mhz.

A vast majority of XT cards recently have dual 400mhz RAMDACS, thus making it an effective 800mhz memory, not 700 as stated in the chart.

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A vast majority of XT cards recently have dual 400mhz RAMDACS, thus making it an effective 800mhz memory, not 700 as stated in the chart.
RAMDAC speed determines the maximum resolution and refresh rate, memory speed is a completely seprate issue.
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Old 10-03-04, 02:35 PM   #8
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Fixed it!

Turns out when i took off all the ram and HSF, the thermal 'adhesive' they used to stick the fan onto the core held it tighter than those little black spring loaded clips. So whe i cracked off the adhesive, the core wasnt getting proper contact and in turn, was getting to hot.

Trip to lowes for some 4-40x3/4 machine screws and nuts (+washers) got things really tightened down. So much that the core dropped 20*C from before with the springs and 10*C from the original setup.

~50* turned to ~60* when i broke the thermal adhesive.
~60*turned to ~40* after the machine bolts/nuts.

Sweet! Now i don't have to buy another card.

If anyone follows my idea of machine screws, be mindful not to OVERtighten. Unlike breaking off the screws of a NVsilencer, you will crack your CARD in half. I at first was going to tighten until it got tough but i noticed the card was slightly bending some! So i backed off and all is good.

Cheers!!
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