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Old 10-06-04, 12:04 AM   #1
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Default Can a ti4200 agp4x be moded or turned into AGP8X?

Jus curious wheather my ti4200-agp4x can be moded or turned into agp8x..
i hav a geforce 6800GT, so planning to experiment with my ti4200, if it is sucessfull..well n good

I hav an Inno3d Geforce4 ti4200 128mb ddr
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Old 10-06-04, 01:59 AM   #2
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Personaly don't think its possible , but if it is , what would you gain ? not FPS surely , better try adding extensive cooler and volt mod it , make a monster
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Old 10-06-04, 06:36 AM   #3
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If such a mod were possible (which it isn't AFAIK), you would gain absolutely nothing from it.
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Default Re: Can a ti4200 agp4x be moded or turned into AGP8X?

AGP8X and AGP4x interfaces are both physically and electrically different.

Besides, even a 5% overclock would do more to your framerate than switching from agp4x to 8x
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Old 10-06-04, 11:51 PM   #5
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I kno, it wont b advantageous, I jus wantd to kno if such a mod was possible.
I was thinkin of flashin its bios with a Ti4200-AGP8X bios.
but if that fails.. the card will never start. So ill leave it.
And abt overclockin.. i did overclok it frm 250/447 to 268/494...
But didnt giv the SIGNIFICANT FPS BOOST
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AGP8X and AGP4x interfaces are both physically and electrically different
Bwah? Not that I know of. The AGP3.0 spec is a superset not a replacement for AGP 2.0. The slots are identical. Perhaps you can explain what you mean.

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The NV25 GPU was Ti4x00 AGP4x and NV28 was Ti4x00 AGP8x + bugfixes over NV25. You can't flash a bios on a NV25 card and magically get AGP8x.
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But didnt giv the SIGNIFICANT FPS BOOST
What kind of system were you trying to run it in? And how do you define "significant?"
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AGP8X and AGP4x interfaces are both physically and electrically different.

Besides, even a 5% overclock would do more to your framerate than switching from agp4x to 8x
Agreed. And if I remember correctly AGP4x and 8x use different slot voltages.

But anyway going from AGP4x to 8x would not be a noteworthy performance boost, not even in benchmarks. In fact the high AGP rate allows for more bandwidth which only really benefits at very high resolutions of 1600x1280 or more. Considering a TI4200 is showing it's age anyway it's unlikely you would be gaming as such high settings, and so AGP8x would be useless.
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Default Re: Can a ti4200 agp4x be moded or turned into AGP8X?

The AGP 8X connection is backward compatible to 4x but but it works at 0.8V (?) rather than 1.5V. I believe also that older 3.3V cards (AGP2x or early 4x) are no longer supported
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The AGP 8X connection is backward compatible to 4x but but it works at 0.8V (?) rather than 1.5V. I believe also that older 3.3V cards (AGP2x or early 4x) are no longer supported
That's not what he's asking, he wants to convert an AGP4x to APG8x for more performance.
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Default Re: Can a ti4200 agp4x be moded or turned into AGP8X?

The original question was pretty much covered in the first three posts
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Alrite guyz, relax
QSTN is answered, it can't/wont happen!.

And for the qstn on significant boost: i used a pentium3 866MHz/i815e/256mb sdram with Ti4200..
wen i overcloked the card... i barely got 5 fps increment in UT2k3, splinter cell..etc. other apps.
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