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Old 03-22-04, 06:21 PM   #73
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Thanks a lot saturnotaku, I appreciate your help
2 more questions if you don't mind:
128 or 256 MB what is the actual difference ? is it worth 256 ?
I am looking at my reseller's catalog and I can see Gigacube Ati radeon 9800 pro, do I get the pro one or I better ask for the XT one?
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Old 03-22-04, 09:19 PM   #74
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If you want to play at 1600x1200, the extra speed, memory and memory bandwidth of the 9800XT will come in handy. But if you can hold off for a few more weeks, the next generation cards will be out and those should offer still superior performance and image quality. But it's up to you. You won't go wrong with a 9800XT if you want a card this moment.
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Old 03-23-04, 05:26 AM   #75
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Well, I have no options about 1600x1200, which is the "native resolution" of my LCD display. If I set games to, say 800x600, results are awful and that "scale down thing" impairs performance, so 1600 is almost mandatory.
My main concern is 2D quality and in second place to able to play the games I play: C&C Generals, Warcraft 3, and so on. I would not be able to play “Half life” in a 26 milliseconds LCD display anyway. Fast games are not for me (I am 51 years old and I am not good in that kind of games), but I enjoy strategy games as I said.
So if Parhelia 256 won’t let me play C&C I think I will follow your advice and go for 9800XT 256 Mb, if there is no better quality option.
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Old 03-23-04, 12:11 PM   #76
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So if Parhelia 256 won’t let me play C&C I think I will follow your advice and go for 9800XT 256 Mb, if there is no better quality option.
You certainly won't find anything better, at least not for a few more weeks!

Also if you wanted to perhaps save a few dollars, you can get a Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB for about $100 less. Performance differences would be in the range of -5 fps or so, so nothing major.
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You know. I'll prolly get Shot here. But I wouldnt mind a Matrox Parhelia. I'm interested in the Anti Aliasing it has
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Old 03-23-04, 06:40 PM   #78
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You know. I'll prolly get Shot here. But I wouldnt mind a Matrox Parhelia. I'm interested in the Anti Aliasing it has
So you mean a Parhelia is still a good option ?
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You know. I'll prolly get Shot here. But I wouldnt mind a Matrox Parhelia. I'm interested in the Anti Aliasing it has
Dammit, stop confusing the guy!

The Parhelia doesn't have the juice to run this game on that res, 256MB or not, period. At least not at a level that makes it worth that much money when you can have a 9800XT or 9800 Pro 256MB.
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Dammit, stop confusing the guy!

The Parhelia doesn't have the juice to run this game on that res, 256MB or not, period. At least not at a level that makes it worth that much money when you can have a 9800XT or 9800 Pro 256MB.

Blah I wasnt confusing him. I said I'd own for the simple enjoyment of having that card, Since its a rare commodity


would I use it Over a 5900 or a 9700 + Card? more than likely. No.
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Old 04-01-04, 10:13 AM   #81
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Why anyone would want to disparage surround gaming is a mystery to me, unless they're completely devoid of peripheral vision. That is incidentally what this review was really all about: whether this card makes surround gaming viable. Everyone who's done surround gaming says the same thing: they can never go back to 1 monitor. Just looking at the eye-candy from some of the 60 surround games that Parhelia supports gets me riled that I can't do that with any other card:

http://www.matrox.com/mga/3d_gaming/surrgame.cfm

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding that THIS CARD IS STILL THE ONLY SETUP THAT RELIABLY DOES SURROUND GAMING. Otherwise you have to have multiple cards in your machine, and the games have to be specifically written for this purpose (the most recent game made that way was Quake3). Parhelia, on the otherhand, supports surround gaming almost natively... all by itself.

The companies that need disparaging are those who refuse to embrace surround gaming. They are doing us all a huge diservice. If you agree, then send a message to ATI and NVIDIA that we want a triple head card using thier chipsets, and a developer resource that makes surround gaming easy to implement:

ATI:
http://apps.ati.com/cservice/webformtech.asp
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nfo@nvidia.com

With new 19" monitors droping below $99 it's astonishing that surround gaming isn't commonplace.
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Holy Bring Back Up Old Threads Batman!!!

start a new thread about surround gaming etc dun bring back up an old thread
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Old 04-01-04, 06:51 PM   #83
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Okay, you're right. Let's kill this thread for good.

I started a new thread with my beef that ATI and NVIDIA has been neglecting the "surround gaming" market:

Where are the promised "surround gaming" video cards?!

If you have any comments about surround gaming, please post it there.
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