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Old 12-10-04, 02:36 PM   #25
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I have been on the beta for WOW since April and I have loved it. I have played EQ and SWG and EQ was awesome for its time, but SWG disappointed me after awhile. I have not played EQ2 and I have heard some good things about it, but WOW has awesome playability and I love the graphics. The questing system rocks and takes the dullness of level grinding and every class can be beneficial in a group, so there are less rejections for groups. If I hadn't been on the WOW beta I would have to try them both out first. I even recomend you trying EQ2 first then trying WOW.
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Old 12-10-04, 02:38 PM   #26
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How is WoW for soloing? I'm primarily an 'explorer' type MMORPGer, so I typically don't do that group of 50 takes down satanic dragon thing.
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Hey JuiceZ,

The line goes both ways home skillet.
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Old 12-10-04, 02:52 PM   #28
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There are certain classes that are better for soloing. Warlocks are the best at it. They are like Necros in EQ. Hunters and Pallys are probably next then mages and the other classes can do it but have to watch agro real close. Not sure about Shamans though. I am a 20th level Hunter and so far I have been able to stand against 3 mobs equal level. It was close though. Warlocks if you are careful can take 3 or 4 with their Voidwalker pet unless they have changed it.
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Old 12-10-04, 03:13 PM   #29
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I can understand you being frustrated Mustrum,

You can disbelieve me if you like. It runs well on my system for whatever the reason. I do not get hitching, stuttering or any of those things by other names. Yes, cities and lots of effects will drop FPS.

Again the worst times for me were when I first started on AB due to server latency, not my machine. Good luck getting the issue hammered out.


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as you see i have quite a lot stuff disabled.
I get between 25 and 60 FPS while running around in antonica and 10 to 20 FPS while fighting. In Blackburrow i dropped as low as 6 FPS.
It's NOT my settings since i tried out an old 9800 PRO that runs SMOOTH at the same settings in the same system.
Also reformated so it's no driver issue.

Then again there's evil stuttering even when i am in a spot with nothing around and 60 FPS.....

If it runs smooth for you you closed your eyes or are happy to fight in the sub 20 FPS area. I've not seen a 6800 owner that could show me proof of getting good FPS while fighting yet.
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Old 12-10-04, 04:12 PM   #30
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OMG did I just waste $50. 20 minutes of WOW and I want fall asleep.

There's absolutly no(mind you in comparison of EQ2) charcter choices, no character design(everyone looks the same) graphics pale to eq and I feel like I'm playing a disney game, interface isn't as good as EQ2. Physics where cartoonish. The only advantage my quick take is WOWs sound was much better and it's colorful.

Wow(no pun lol), did this game open my eyes for what all EQ2 is. I now know why eq to runs so bad, it's truely a next generation game graphically. I'll play on the lowest graphic setting of eq until some patchs fix the performance problem.

Thankyou blizzard.
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Old 12-10-04, 05:29 PM   #31
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OMG did I just waste $50. 20 minutes of WOW and I want fall asleep.

There's absolutly no(mind you in comparison of EQ2) charcter choices, no character design(everyone looks the same) graphics pale to eq and I feel like I'm playing a disney game, interface isn't as good as EQ2. Physics where cartoonish. The only advantage my quick take is WOWs sound was much better and it's colorful.
Wow. Have you really just taken graphics into your evaluation? WoW in 20 minutes is not the real WoW. Can you please give me some screenshots of EQ2 that actually look good? I looked at all of the Gamespot ones and damn is the game boring looking. They really need to hire some good artists. Maybe Blizzard contracts out .

There's a reason that WoW runs so well. It's called efficiency. How many choices of characters do you have in WoW? Not overly many. How much RAM do you need to store all of that? Not much. Contrast that with many different choices. When you get past the graphics of the game, you'll be stuck with all these models, textures in RAM that is really just wasted. This sort of efficiency of resources is what Blizzard appears to have done in much of the engine, and the performance shows.

With regards to the interface in WoW, it is the only MMORPG that I've played that I haven't wanted to heavily modify the interface, where things are, etc. The only things I've changed is moving the 'combat' chat channel to the right of the normal chat one.
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Old 12-11-04, 02:47 AM   #32
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Few pics of Qeynos area , not max detail , actual settings i play at

http://img19.exs.cx/img19/2529/EverQ...2-36-08-28.jpg
http://img19.exs.cx/img19/6764/EverQ...4-13-00-39.jpg
http://img19.exs.cx/img19/3811/EverQ...4-34-43-00.jpg
http://img19.exs.cx/img19/6740/EverQ...4-53-35-59.jpg
http://img19.exs.cx/img19/6816/EverQ...5-01-35-14.jpg
http://img19.exs.cx/img19/6883/EverQ...5-09-38-46.jpg

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/9954/EverQ...4-48-27-70.jpg
http://img25.exs.cx/img25/2594/EverQ...4-59-50-64.jpg
http://img25.exs.cx/img25/1433/EverQ...9-42-29-17.jpg

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/5251/EverQ...1-22-01-85.jpg

In my opinion EverQuest 2 Graphics are amazeing.

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Old 12-11-04, 03:21 AM   #33
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hehe i think that put an end to the battle in the gfx department, lol i love EQ2 it just never ceases to amaze me, and those screenies you showed arent even a good indication of what the game is like to play, theres so many great loacations, to see them when they are alive is a totally different experience.

Ive played both i currently play eq2, but i did play the open beta for WoW, soon as EQ2 came out i gave my WoW account key to a mate and never looked back. ive never played an MMORPG these were my first 2, oh and guild wars which i thought was a bit too rpg light.

Long live Eq2 !! im hooked, if they could just sort the low frames in some areas it would be the perfect game.
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I'd definitely have to say WoW. The primary reason is for customer service. SOE has some of the worst CSRs ever. I've been playing SWG since it came out. I am going to move over to WoW to join other guild members as soon as I can find a copy in stock anywhere. (My hometown is retarded the sales clerk at Staples told me they were only releasing enough copies to fill the servers and that was it. *my only 2 options for buying games in town is staples or walmart)

What has impressed me most with WoW is the fact that they are being relentless in banning exploiters. I recall 2 incidents with a credit dupe in swg. The first one the CSRs were literally chasing a player around in game trying to catch up to his avatar as he dumped 500 million credits onto people he passed by. It was quite comical and sad at the same time. Those credits ruined the economy. The second time there was a credit dupe they banned innocent merchants with no re-imbursement for simply having someone buy something from their vendor using duped credits. WoW has already been avidly banning exploiters and has even given extensions for poor service. An extension for the poor service is something SOE has never done. I've seen servers down for almost an entire day because they couldn't impliment a patch properly.

So my reasons for choosing WoW are basically to contiue playing with my guild from swg and for the customer service. That is as soon as I find a copy.
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Few pics of Qeynos area , not max detail , actual settings i play at
Yeah, more or less the same thing as the shots from Gamespot. Nice looking engine, high res textures, but bad art.
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Old 12-11-04, 11:07 AM   #36
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I dunno man, I got a few hours in(lvl 8) now with WOW and it's just not sucking me in. These are my first 2 MMOs though so I really don;t have nothing to campare them against. Just the 2 and IMO wow pales in comparison to EQ2 in every which way. I guess they just cater to 2 completly different crowds.
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