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Old 12-31-04, 11:52 AM   #13
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Ahh, yet another member in PCI-Express club....

Workaround:
Only x86_64 is "broken", when you switch back to a pure i386 distro everything should be fine...

@Nvidia-Developers:
Why crash "nvidia-settings" in x86_64 always X?
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Old 12-31-04, 12:44 PM   #14
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Workaround:
Only x86_64 is "broken", when you switch back to a pure i386 distro everything should be fine...
thanks for this hint, but I did not buy a amd64 to run it in standard i386
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Old 01-01-05, 12:01 AM   #15
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I am having basically exactly the same problem as Arawn:

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard
Leadtek GeForce 6600GT PCI Express 128MB

In Fedora Core 3 x86_64 with the nvidia driver 66.29, there is no logo screen (just what was in the frame buffer previously, like the partial Windows logout screen), and the mouse cursor doesn't show up. With the default options, it doesn't seem to show up at all, except occasionally when I mouse over the edges of windows, etc. I tried setting HWCursor to 0 and SWCursor to 1 in the xorg.conf to try to make it use software cursor. This lets it show up while X is loading and the cursor is still the X, but after it finishes loading the cursor is invisible again.

Also, after I exit X, the console text is all messed up (corrupted display font or something) until I log out and log back in again, which seems to fix it.

These problems are particularly bad on this setup because the open-source nv driver doesn't recognize this card, and the VESA driver doesn't even work (it just displays a bunch of garbage on the screen). I reported the latter as a bug on Fedora's Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla....cgi?id=143910
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Old 01-01-05, 11:28 AM   #16
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OT: Has anyone here get the hardware-sensors working?
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Old 01-01-05, 11:36 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by robhan****
I am having basically exactly the same problem as Arawn:

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe motherboard
Leadtek GeForce 6600GT PCI Express 128MB

In Fedora Core 3 x86_64 with the nvidia driver 66.29, there is no logo screen (just what was in the frame buffer previously, like the partial Windows logout screen), and the mouse cursor doesn't show up. With the default options, it doesn't seem to show up at all, except occasionally when I mouse over the edges of windows, etc. I tried setting HWCursor to 0 and SWCursor to 1 in the xorg.conf to try to make it use software cursor. This lets it show up while X is loading and the cursor is still the X, but after it finishes loading the cursor is invisible again.

Also, after I exit X, the console text is all messed up (corrupted display font or something) until I log out and log back in again, which seems to fix it.

These problems are particularly bad on this setup because the open-source nv driver doesn't recognize this card, and the VESA driver doesn't even work (it just displays a bunch of garbage on the screen). I reported the latter as a bug on Fedora's Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla....cgi?id=143910
Yeah, I forgot to mention that I'd tried to play with the NvAGP and HS/SWCursor settings.

I guess this is part of the joys of having a just released video card on a just released chipset. Explains why nv and vesa drivers dont work, they have no idea what PCIe is

On the bright side, you can get a display on the vga driver. I was able to get what looked like 320x240, with the top 1/4 of the screen black

As far as just running i386... If I wnated to run i386, I wouldn't have spend my money on an A64, I'd just keep running my AXP. Unfortunately, my upgrade is work related. I'm a consultant, and I'm sure my clients will like hearing "Just run old crap" even less than I do
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Old 01-02-05, 12:01 AM   #18
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Hmm, BTW on KDE, disable Font-Antialiasing brings most dialogboxes, captions, ... back.

But althoug, I've to say, the system is rock solid stable! not a single freeze, lockup, hang, crash or whatever, even xawtv/motv couldn't kill it!)...
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Old 01-03-05, 04:24 PM   #19
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Same exact problem here on the following:

PCIe nforce4 motherboard (Gigabyte GA-K8NF-9), XFX 6600 card,
AMD64 3500+ (winchester core). I tried another different brand/make
6600 card as well with the same results, so I know it's the 6629 driver.

BTW, I'm running Gentoo and it's latest e-build appears to apply all
of the latest patches:

--- (build excerpt):

amd64
* Applying nv-amd64-shutup-warnings.patch ... [ ok ]
* Applying NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-6629-1155389.patch ... [ ok ]
* Applying NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-6629-1162524.patch ... [ ok ]
* Applying NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-6629-1165235.patch ... [ ok ]
* Applying NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-6629-1171869.patch ... [ ok ]
* Applying NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-6629-1175225.patch ... [ ok ]
* Applying NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-6629-1182399.patch ... [ ok ]
* Applying 2.6 kernel patches
* Applying conftest_koutput_includes.patch ... [ ok ]
* Applying nv-disable-preempt-on-smp_processor_id.patch ... [ ok ]
* Applying NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-6629-1161283.patch ... [ ok ]
* Converting NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-6629-pkg2/usr/src/nv/Makefile.kbuild to use M= instead of SUBDIRS=... [ ok ]

---

Everything builds correctly, it's stable, and as far as I can
tell the GL stuff works well and FAST. But X-Windows (Xorg 6.8.0-r3)
is still unusable until this problem is fixed.

It seems like a memory management problem in the driver. Basically
none of the images render correctly, and when they do, they have a
tendency to disappear. This includes icons, (anti-aliased) fonts,
and (probably) the nvidia splash screen (since I don't see it - just
garbage before X starts). I also get the same exact block/garbage
mouse pointer, however I've discovered that when running at 1800x1440
resolution I actually do get a normal mouse pointer.

Also, when I exit X and go back to my 80x25 console, all of my text is
black (on black) so the only thing I see is a blinking cursor. I can
only seem to fix this by rebooting.

Unfortunately I'm gonna NEED this system to work soon, so my options
at this point are to either wait for a driver fix or buy a new card...

Anyone have any update on where we are on this problem?


Charlton
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Old 01-05-05, 04:52 AM   #20
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hmm ... I'm really asking myself why I buyed a nvidia card?? I'm not going to use SLI, I just buyed this board (asus a8n-sli deluxe) because it was the first nforce4-board available.

And I prefered an nvidia-card over one by ati, because nvidia's linux support was always good in the past, but it seems that this has changed .... ?! It can't be so difficult to fix this stupid bug, is it? Since I have this board, several ""inofficial" beta-driver for windows has been released, but not one for linux?!

I don't care if glx doesn't work, I would be satisfied with a normal cursor and normal rendering

Come on you guys, we count on you ...

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Old 01-05-05, 09:50 AM   #21
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I 2nd kip's last comment.

Please help guys. If I can help anyone in any way troubleshoot this with my
hardware or what-not, please e-mail me: charlton AT dynet DOT com.

If anyone knows any work-around either, please let me know. AFAIK there is
none. NVidia PCI-e 6xxx cards simply do not work under Linux until we can fix
this bug.


Charlton

P.S. - FWIF I believe some of the memory ranges are being overlapped in the
video-RAM in the driver, possibly by the nforce4 stuff. I'd be willing to help track
this down... just not familiar enough with the code yet.
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Old 01-05-05, 01:10 PM   #22
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Hey, guys...

ever tried setting: Option "NoRenderExtension" "on" in your xorg.conf or XF86Config-4 ?
For me X works as in i386, but "SWCursor" still needs to be "on" ... and also the vts still messed up...

@Nvidia, once again, when is "soon" ? And why crash nvidia-settings X when it pokes something in /dev/nvidiactl ?
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Old 01-05-05, 07:33 PM   #23
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Wow!

You're right, Option "NoRenderExtension" really does serve as a good workaround for now...
Thanks!

What is VTS?
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Old 01-05-05, 07:44 PM   #24
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vt = Virtual Terminal, Console, TTY, or anything between (ATL + (CTRL) + F1) and (... + F7) but since Nvidia seems doing a really good with nforce 4 & PCI-Express, I only needed them once...

And hey, charlton have you get the hardware monitors (cpu - temperature, fan speed, ...) working?

EDIT: OK, I got them! Nice, although Gigabyte didn't connect all sensors correctly...

Last edited by chunkey; 01-06-05 at 04:18 PM. Reason: Hurray, HW monitor works...
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