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Old 01-06-05, 10:13 AM   #61
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Your coming off like a blizzard fan... ontop of your high horse...
No, I'm a veteran of the game. Anyone with a pulse could beat the single player campaign. It's multiplayer where the fun is, and I guarantee you'd last about 5 minutes in any 1 on 1 game by having your hero "patrol your base". It demonstrates a lack of understanding of how to play the game, hence, in my opinion, invalidating your criticism of it. It's like complaining that your computer can't scramble your eggs for you. And I hate to break it to you, but since you're the one who brought up the whole "Blizzard sucks" topic, you're the one coming off as a fanboy here.
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my biggest gripes with WoW, on top of all the lag and server issues..was the game was just too easy..in beta was able to level 60 in a week or so..

tradeskills too easy..

and i never grouped once...because everyone wants to solo since more XP..
Sorry, aside from your mention of server issues, you are either exaggerating to an extreme or just completely making that up. Leveling to 60 in a week? Never grouped once? Sorry, that's impossible. Not hard, not extremely difficult, IMPOSSIBLE. I'm sorry, maybe not impossible - it's technically possible if you did not sleep, eat, or do anything other than play the game for the entire week 24 hours a day. Even then, it'd be extraordinarily difficult. Since no one plays the game like this except freaks or spoiled kids with no responsibilities, it's hardly a just comment about the game.
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Old 01-06-05, 10:25 AM   #62
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No, I'm a veteran of the game. Anyone with a pulse could beat the single player campaign. It's multiplayer where the fun is, and I guarantee you'd last about 5 minutes in any 1 on 1 game by having your hero "patrol your base". It demonstrates a lack of understanding of how to play the game, hence, in my opinion, invalidating your criticism of it. It's like complaining that your computer can't scramble your eggs for you. And I hate to break it to you, but since you're the one who brought up the whole "Blizzard sucks" topic, you're the one coming off as a fanboy here.
Oh I am a fanboy, 4 years of EQ does that to you... I will never deny that... As for playing WC3 online, did for awhile. Got bored of it, rather play WC2 and SC online. Was big on D2 for awhile but after alittle break from it my characters were deleted and I never returned to it.

I never said Blizzard sucked, I say they aren't gods like every Blizzard fan holds them as. I think other RTS games are better then the ones they created and I think thier MMORPG is lacking alot.

You need to also lighten up and lower the hostility, I have never directed any attacks towards your playstyle, skill or character yet you seem to need to at me, without even knowing anything about me. No wonder poeple generalize the Blizzard Fanbase...
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I wonder why people always have to take shots against Blizzard, they make games for god sake not rape babies.
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Old 01-06-05, 10:39 AM   #64
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You need to also lighten up and lower the hostility, I have never directed any attacks towards your playstyle, skill or character yet you seem to need to at me, without even knowing anything about me.
Yet you have repeatedly made comments of this nature:
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No wonder poeple generalize the Blizzard Fanbase...
Snide remarks like this are generally not well recieved. If you want to act like a prick, be prepared for people to use a less than friendly tone.

I couldn't care less if you like Blizzard games or not, that's not the point. Let's try and remember who started bashing who here. You attack my favorite games, I'll defend them. You've repeatedly asserted that people only like Blizzard games because of the name. I like them because all of their games ARE awesome, and in my opinion Blizzard IS the best PC game development company. I generally am not interested in Westwood's C&C series. But I don't go trolling around C&C boards calling everyone "Westwood fanboys" and repeatedly posting how much I hate a certain game that I've barely spent any time playing. I understand that you want to be "different" and go against the grain, good for you, but keep it to yourself.
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I wonder why people always have to take shots against Blizzard, they make games for god sake not rape babies.
Probably for many of the same reasons people take shots at Microsoft. Both companies are damn good at what they do from a business perspective. Their products are popular and generally well-liked among those who use them, but at the same time they both have their harsh critics.
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Probably for many of the same reasons people take shots at Microsoft. Both companies are damn good at what they do from a business perspective. Their products are popular and generally well-liked among those who use them, but at the same time they both have their harsh critics.
Hmm Penny Arcade photoshop of Blizzard critics perhaps?
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No, I'm a veteran of the game. Anyone with a pulse could beat the single player campaign. It's multiplayer where the fun is, and I guarantee you'd last about 5 minutes in any 1 on 1 game by having your hero "patrol your base". It demonstrates a lack of understanding of how to play the game, hence, in my opinion, invalidating your criticism of it. It's like complaining that your computer can't scramble your eggs for you. And I hate to break it to you, but since you're the one who brought up the whole "Blizzard sucks" topic, you're the one coming off as a fanboy here.

Sorry, aside from your mention of server issues, you are either exaggerating to an extreme or just completely making that up. Leveling to 60 in a week? Never grouped once? Sorry, that's impossible. Not hard, not extremely difficult, IMPOSSIBLE. I'm sorry, maybe not impossible - it's technically possible if you did not sleep, eat, or do anything other than play the game for the entire week 24 hours a day. Even then, it'd be extraordinarily difficult. Since no one plays the game like this except freaks or spoiled kids with no responsibilities, it's hardly a just comment about the game.

i said a week or so...this was in beta...before they had tons of major lag issues...it might have been 2 weeks or maybe 3 i dont know..all i know is way too short...compared to eq1, or eq2...and i played roughly 10-14 hours a day


dont even get me started on the class balance issues...LOL
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dont even get me started on the class balance issues...LOL
Heh, yeah, there's definitely work to be done here. The Warrior class at the moment is completely useless and Mages are not too far off. I'm glad I picked a Rogue to play, seems to be the best PvP class there is.
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Heh, yeah, there's definitely work to be done here. The Warrior class at the moment is completely useless and Mages are not too far off. I'm glad I picked a Rogue to play, seems to be the best PvP class there is.

yep rogue rocks...but you know somehow it going to be nerfed
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Well, I'm fairly certain that the last patch dramatically increased the miss rate on Rogue specials like Sinister Strike and Eviscerate, I miss about 20% of them on mobs 8 levels below me fairly consistently (the miss rate is supposed to be 5%). I miss my stealth abilities almost 33% of the time (Sap, Ambush, Cheap Shot) as to render them almost useless. What makes me even more mad about this is that I put talent points into a talent that supposedly improve the hit rate of these abilities by 5%. Arg.
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Heh, yeah, there's definitely work to be done here. The Warrior class at the moment is completely useless and Mages are not too far off. I'm glad I picked a Rogue to play, seems to be the best PvP class there is.

I pretty much stopped my rogue. Atr level 36, And have gone back as a priest who will specialize in shadow/disc. It seems to be a good step for me. I really got tired of my 1 shot for everything rogue. Once you expend vanish/stealth capabilities, I felt rogues were giant targets.
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I played EQ1 for 5 years myself, I wouldent consider myself a fanboy by any means. If anything I miss Verant and despise SOE. They did not "ruin" everquest by any means. But they did change it, into somthing alot less frusterating, alot less time consuming, and ultimatly alot less rewarding. This is of course subjective, but i like the old days of Original EQ, yeah there where class balence issues, but it was a special game. Perhaps just because it was my first MMO. Im really looking forward to Vanguard.

I loved WarCraft 3, however I sucked at it.. i owned the single player, and played multiplayer for months, but I never could get past level 12ish. There are alot of people that put way to much time into it, and the micro managment of the game is very complicated, i've seen tiny armies of a couple heros and 4-5 unites decimate massive armies of unskilled players. It requires alot of time to play compeitivly at all. I guess the same can be said for most things these days though, like counter strike. Speaking of which, i've been playing alot more CS:S then WoW these days, not that I don't enjoy wow, but CS:S is better then ever and im having a blast with it.

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