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Old 01-02-05, 03:34 PM   #1
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I'm currently on my 3rd GeForce card over the last several years and believe it's time for my 4th after watching my son try to run Doom 3 on the MX 4000 at a snails pace. I'm looking for the hottest card for the buck (isn't everyone?). I've been doing a little research and the one I believe I am about ready to buy is the MSI GeForce FX5900XT-VTD128 as I've read a lot of good reviews on it. I also see that I can get a 6600GT for roughly the same price. Which one would be the smarter buy, or would I be better off with a different model?

Keep in mind that we only run Linux on our machines so I would rather save money by buying something that doesn't come with all the Windows garbage software CDs. I see the MSI comes with a ton of those. It'll go in an Athlon 2600 w/512MB. Thanks for any advice.
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Old 01-02-05, 05:16 PM   #2
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do *not* buy an FX card. really.

at a minimum, buy a 6xxx series card. a 6600GT would be a much, much, much better investment than an FX card. the 6800NU (non-ultra/non-GT) is also a good value, around $200-250 now. Im using a BFG 6800 OC 128MB with no problems in linux. I've not heard of anyone using a 6600 in linux, though I havent really been reading around.

I would go for a 6600GT or a 6800NU, or perhaps a lower end 6xxx series if they exist (6200? i dunno).
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Old 01-02-05, 06:08 PM   #3
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I just looked up the 6600 GT on pricewatch and there are cards for around $179, however it would appear that they are all PCI Express, I need AGP 8X. Maybe this would be a bottleneck that would make buying a higher end card pointless? I saw mention of people getting 6800 GT and 6800 NU cards for $199 here:

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=368004

The lowest prices I have found so far are just under 300 bucks. Wonder where I can get one for $199? :) I also noticed mixed reviews at best on the forum I linked to above.
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Old 01-02-05, 06:56 PM   #4
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I just found two 6600 GT cards on TigerDirect for the same price.

Card #1:
Chaintech GeForce 6600 GT / 128MB DDR3 / AGP 8X / VGA / DVI / TV Out / Video Card:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...0111&CatId=880

Card #2:
PNY GeForce 6600 GT / 128MB DDR3 / AGP 8X / Dual DVI / Video Card:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...4256&CatId=880

The specs are pretty much the same except the PNY boasts higher memory bandwidth. Is this a mistake? Also I notice one comes with two DVI connectors and one comes with 1 DVI and 1 VGA connector which I assume means I would have to buy an DVI->VGA adapter. Would there be any difference between manufacturers as far as compatibility with the Linux driver?

At $229 it's a little more than I wanted to spend but if the performance is that much better than what I would have spent $179 on then I suppose I'll go for it.

EDIT: I see the PNY includes 2 DVI->VGA adapters.

Thanks for all the help!
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Old 01-02-05, 09:15 PM   #5
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i dont know if i really want to recommend the 6600GT anymore... ive been seeing far too many issues with them overheating now that I think about it.

There was a review done of 12 (i think?) different 6600GT cards by different vendors, comparing cooling solutions by each in addition to performance tests... but i cant remember for the life of me where it was done, and my googling skills have let me down Perhaps you can find it, it's a must read if you're considering a 6600GT. I would also read the geforce 6 graphics card forum here at nvnews to get a feel for issues people have with these cards.

Judging from what i've seen, the 6800NU's do not suffer from near as many problems, but I guess they're out of your price range. I got my 6800NU for $249+tax (sigh) and I recently saw a deal at Frys for the PNY 6800NU's for $199, but I guess you have to be at the right place at the right time to get in on these deals.

To answer at least one of your questions (sorry! heh) there shouldn't be any compatibility problems between manufacturers of the cards. I'm pretty sure there is support for the 6600 series in the current 1.0-6629 drivers, but you might want to double check that, and maybe see if you can find people who are using a 6600 in linux to see how well it works or if there are any kinks yet to be worked out.

Good luck!
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Old 01-02-05, 09:29 PM   #6
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Thanks, I'll hold off on a purchase for now and see if I can find a good deal and see if the overheat thing is a problem along with a little more research. There is also someone that came to me for help trying to get his 6600 GT AGP working with Debian Sarge. I have given him all the pointers I can think of, looks like it should be working to me:

http://voidmain.is-a-geek.net/forums...pic.php?t=1314
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Old 01-02-05, 09:44 PM   #7
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@smthmlk: this?
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2295&p=19
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Old 01-02-05, 10:01 PM   #8
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That's a nice comparison. Too bad the PNY isn't in there somewhere because that's the one I was really looking at. The Chaintech was the same price as the PNY and did fairly well on that comparison. Hmmmmm.

EDIT: I see the XFX 6600 GT is also listed at Tiger Direct for the same price as the other two I linked to and it's rated one of the coolest running but one of the loudest (according to my wife I can't hear anyway).

Card #3:
XFX GeForce 6600 GT / 128MB DDR3 / AGP 8X / Dual DVI / HDTV:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...1824&CatId=880

It does not say whether this card comes with the DVI->VGA connectors though.

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Old 01-02-05, 10:23 PM   #9
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Also nice, but only about 6600GT AGP...

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2277
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...gt-agp-01.html
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Old 01-02-05, 10:35 PM   #10
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Actually I am only interested in the AGP version. I do have another question though. I can't tell if the Linux nVidia driver will support dual head. In the README it talks about TwinView. Does this also cover nView?

EDIT: There is also a nice review of the XFX right here on this site:
http://www.nvnews.net/previews/gefor...gp/index.shtml

It would appear from the pictures that it does indeed come with DVI->VGA adapters. I'm almost ready to press the button on this one...

EDIT2: Looks like XFX is now shipping their 6600 GT with improved fans. I wonder if they were having overheat problems. If I order one I bet I get the original model. There's a note and PDF with a picture of the new fan at the bottom of this XFX page:

http://www.xfxforce.com/product_view.php?sku=PVT43AND

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Old 01-03-05, 12:08 AM   #11
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I just ordered the XFX 6600 GT AGP, mainly because it was one of the coolest running cards compared to the other vendors. Thanks for all your help peoples!
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Old 01-03-05, 09:27 AM   #12
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Quote:
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yes! heh, and i even looked through anand's site really quick.. i must be blind


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I just ordered the XFX 6600 GT AGP, mainly because it was one of the coolest running cards compared to the other vendors. Thanks for all your help peoples!
good luck! let us know how it goes.
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