Low FPS in UT2004 with a 6600GT

SFL · 02-08-05, 03:22 PM

Hi,

I now played UT2004 Onslaught to test my 1 week old MSI NX6600GT-VTD128 AGP 8x and I get about 60FPS in 800x600@32. Sometimes, when there is more action FPS get down to ~35!

Seems to be too low...?

The latest NVidia driver is installed. I turned anti-aliasing as well as anisotropic filtering off. System performance (don't know the exact english term, I have a german installation - it's here the 3rd item in the NVidia configuration tool) is set to "Performance".

UT2004 settings:
Texture Detail: Normal
Character Detail: Lower
World Detail: Normal
Physics Detail: Low
Dynamic Mesh LOD: Normal
Decal Stay: Normal
Character Shadow: None
x Decals
x Dynamic Lighting
x Coronas
x Projectors
x Wheater Effects
Fog Distance: 0

System:
Dell Dimension 8300
Intel Pentium 4 HT 2,6GHz
1024 MB RAM
Intel 875P chipset
WinXP Home SP2

Thanks for your help!

TacT · 02-08-05, 04:07 PM

ut2004 takes serious cpu and gpu horsepower to achieve high framerates. You only have average there sadly, cpu being the bigger bottleneck of the two. Try running this timedemo and post back with results @ the different resolutions -- set all game details to holy schmidt settings so we get an idea where you stand http://www.3dcenter.org/downloads/ut2004-primeval.php

FWIW also set world detail to Low -- it has a fairly big hit on performance, as do decals and given your cpu is no stallion you'd be well the more wiser to do so if you need the fps. Turn off weather effects too -- both useless when it comes to gameplay if you ask me -- as is foliage which you seem to have unchecked like a good lad

I can play with all the fancy crap turned on but the game plays better with some of it turned off I reckon -- specifically:

Wold detail -- Low
Weather effects -- off
Decals -- Low
Foliage -- off

Doesn't sound like you've tweaked any of the game settings either since it dips to 35 -- if it's dipping to 35 then you have a default .ini file that could do with a little work for a few more frames too. Have a read here, there's no shortage of tweaks you can do to improve that: http://www.tweakguides.com/UT2004_1.html

$n][pErMan · 02-08-05, 06:26 PM

That seems way to low for that card... expecially at 800x600 without everything on full.

yoladude · 02-08-05, 06:30 PM

a friend of mine had terribly low framerates with his 6600gt agp; 800x600 in HL2, no aa/af and medium settings ran horribly. i went into his bios and saw the card selected as PCI or something, changed it to AGP, and all is well.

not sure if htis is your problem, but it cant hurt to check. of course, this is only if its working slowly in EVERYTHING.

SFL · 02-09-05, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TacT

Try running this timedemo and post back with results @ the different resolutions -- set all game details to holy schmidt settings so we get an idea where you stand http://www.3dcenter.org/downloads/ut2004-primeval.php

I ran the timedemo at 1024x768 and at 1280x960 and got an average at both of 50FPS. Couldn't run the timedemo at 1600x1200 since my Philips TFT doesn't support this resolution.

When I turn all effects on and set everything to max I get an average of 30FPS.

Not very good results.... should I deinstall the NVidia driver, run DriverCleaner and install the NVidia driver again?

EDIT: the card is running in AGP 8x, this setting is ok

ChrisRay · 02-09-05, 07:31 AM

I dont think his CPU would be limiting him "That" much however. While my CPU is quite a bit faster I can get alot more than that on my Athlon XP 2500+ with a 6800GT. At such a low resolution GPU wouldnt be much of a bottleneck.

WimpMiester · 02-09-05, 11:45 AM

The bigest performance killer in UT2004 is Fog/Draw Distance. Go to the options menu and turn that slider all the way down. You shouldn't even notice a difference with this slider all the up so I don't know why its even there.

Gentle · 02-09-05, 02:17 PM

Did Microsoft ever fix that DirectX 60hz refresh rate bug?

Gentle

SFL · 02-10-05, 02:36 AM

Oh, one more thing:

Prince of Persia Sands of Time tells me at startup that a hardware problem with my graphics card had been found and that the game will not run correctly... However, up to now I didn't noticed any problems...

Maybe it's the same problem causing the low FPS in UT2004

EDIT: I now ran DriverCleaner Pro, followed the instructions in the Readme but I still have these low FPS

02-08-05, 03:22 PM	#1
SFL Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vienna Posts: 68	Low FPS in UT2004 with a 6600GT Hi, I now played UT2004 Onslaught to test my 1 week old MSI NX6600GT-VTD128 AGP 8x and I get about 60FPS in 800x600@32. Sometimes, when there is more action FPS get down to ~35! Seems to be too low...? The latest NVidia driver is installed. I turned anti-aliasing as well as anisotropic filtering off. System performance (don't know the exact english term, I have a german installation - it's here the 3rd item in the NVidia configuration tool) is set to "Performance". UT2004 settings: Texture Detail: Normal Character Detail: Lower World Detail: Normal Physics Detail: Low Dynamic Mesh LOD: Normal Decal Stay: Normal Character Shadow: None x Decals x Dynamic Lighting x Coronas x Projectors x Wheater Effects Fog Distance: 0 System: Dell Dimension 8300 Intel Pentium 4 HT 2,6GHz 1024 MB RAM Intel 875P chipset WinXP Home SP2 Thanks for your help!

02-08-05, 04:07 PM	#2
TacT mad paddy Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: land of the leprechauns and cows that go moo Posts: 141	Re: Low FPS in UT2004 with a 6600GT ut2004 takes serious cpu and gpu horsepower to achieve high framerates. You only have average there sadly, cpu being the bigger bottleneck of the two. Try running this timedemo and post back with results @ the different resolutions -- set all game details to holy schmidt settings so we get an idea where you stand http://www.3dcenter.org/downloads/ut2004-primeval.php FWIW also set world detail to Low -- it has a fairly big hit on performance, as do decals and given your cpu is no stallion you'd be well the more wiser to do so if you need the fps. Turn off weather effects too -- both useless when it comes to gameplay if you ask me -- as is foliage which you seem to have unchecked like a good lad I can play with all the fancy crap turned on but the game plays better with some of it turned off I reckon -- specifically: Wold detail -- Low Weather effects -- off Decals -- Low Foliage -- off Doesn't sound like you've tweaked any of the game settings either since it dips to 35 -- if it's dipping to 35 then you have a default .ini file that could do with a little work for a few more frames too. Have a read here, there's no shortage of tweaks you can do to improve that: http://www.tweakguides.com/UT2004_1.html __________________ 5.6K05 25.3K01 13.3K03 80K ARC

02-08-05, 06:26 PM	#3
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02-08-05, 06:30 PM	#4
yoladude Mr. Hobo Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 307	Re: Low FPS in UT2004 with a 6600GT a friend of mine had terribly low framerates with his 6600gt agp; 800x600 in HL2, no aa/af and medium settings ran horribly. i went into his bios and saw the card selected as PCI or something, changed it to AGP, and all is well. not sure if htis is your problem, but it cant hurt to check. of course, this is only if its working slowly in EVERYTHING.

02-09-05, 07:31 AM	#6
ChrisRay Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tulsa Posts: 5,101	Re: Low FPS in UT2004 with a 6600GT I dont think his CPU would be limiting him "That" much however. While my CPU is quite a bit faster I can get alot more than that on my Athlon XP 2500+ with a 6800GT. At such a low resolution GPU wouldnt be much of a bottleneck. __________________ \|CPU: Intel I7 Lynnfield @ 3.0 Ghz\|Mobo:Asus P7P55 WS Supercomputer \|Memory:8 Gigs DDR3 1333\|Video:Geforce GTX 295 Quad SLI\|Monitor:Samsung Syncmaster 1680x1080 3D Vision\/Olevia 27 Inch Widescreen HDTV 1920x1080 \|CPU: AMD Phenom 9600 Black Edition @ 2.5 Ghz\|Mobo:Asus M3n HT Deluxe Nforce 780A\|Memory: 4 gigs DDR2 800\| Video: Geforce GTX 280x2 SLI Nzone SLI Forum Administrator NVIDIA User Group Members receive free software and/or hardware from NVIDIA from time to time to facilitate the evaluation of NVIDIA products. However, the opinions expressed are solely those of the members

02-09-05, 11:45 AM	#7
WimpMiester Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 221	Re: Low FPS in UT2004 with a 6600GT The bigest performance killer in UT2004 is Fog/Draw Distance. Go to the options menu and turn that slider all the way down. You shouldn't even notice a difference with this slider all the up so I don't know why its even there.

02-09-05, 02:17 PM	#8
Gentle Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saint Louis, Missouri, USA Posts: 580	Re: Low FPS in UT2004 with a 6600GT Did Microsoft ever fix that DirectX 60hz refresh rate bug? Gentle

02-10-05, 02:36 AM	#9
SFL Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vienna Posts: 68	Re: Low FPS in UT2004 with a 6600GT Oh, one more thing: Prince of Persia Sands of Time tells me at startup that a hardware problem with my graphics card had been found and that the game will not run correctly... However, up to now I didn't noticed any problems... Maybe it's the same problem causing the low FPS in UT2004 EDIT: I now ran DriverCleaner Pro, followed the instructions in the Readme but I still have these low FPS Last edited by SFL; 02-10-05 at 04:42 AM.

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