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Old 02-23-05, 08:24 PM   #49
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Please reread that and state where I said PSP 2 is coming out...LMAO

I said GBE...nothing about PSP 2 coming out next year...
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Please reread that and state where I said PSP 2 is coming out...LMAO

I said GBE...nothing about PSP 2 coming out next year...
Well how you said it...the GBE is going to compete with the PSP2.....and the GBE is coming out around next year....but how does one handheld compete with the other if they are not relatively close together timewise. So putting both together using reason and you basically are saying the PSP2 will be coming relatively close to the GBE, which will be releasing next year, so they will compete.


i hope i made sense for ya.
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Old 02-23-05, 08:30 PM   #51
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Well how you said it...the GBE is going to compete with the PSP2.....and the GBE is coming out around next year....but how does one handheld compete with the other if they are not relatively close together timewise.

Well when I said 2006...doesnt really mean 2006..that what I heard but in my later post..I really beleive it will be 2007...but time will tell...and from what i heard it is still up in the air on specs and which handheld it is going directly against...and since when do consoles always come out at same time when they are in competition?
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Old 02-23-05, 08:32 PM   #52
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Well when I said 2006...doesnt really mean 2006..
I stopped reading your post after this point...
sorry.

We are really off topic but whatever.
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uh..er....getting back on topic...how bout them long lasting batteries lol.
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Old 02-23-05, 09:40 PM   #54
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While the PSP looks good and all that, it's ironic that it will once again be Nintendo making the big bucks. Just like the last console generation, Xbox, GC and PS2, even though they sold the least consoles and have the smallest userbase and are considered the "kiddy console", Nintendo made the biggest profit from their GameCube. Cheap hardware, develop and publish the major titles, thereby getting most profit directly without any middle man.

Same thing going to happen here. DS has already sold like what, 3 million? 5 million? They also probably make some good profit from the hardware sale only. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Sony is biting the dust with the price of PSP hardware, selling it cheaper than it probably actually costs just to keep up with DS price. And then not only that, but some people are buying it not for the games, but for Mp3 or their DivX movies, in which case Sony would lose the most money.

I'd rather have a PSP over a DS, though I'm never going to buy either and never have bought a handheld, but you got to hand it to Nintendo when it comes to making the big bucks.
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Old 02-23-05, 09:55 PM   #55
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You gotta take in account that the PSP hasnt been released yet (thats why the ds sold so many, cause there was no competition at the time. but where it has been released...it puts numbers on the board....

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Media Create has released the latest Japanese hardware sales data, for the week ending Jan. 23rd, 2005.

1) PlayStation 2 - 66,543 (YTD: 255,781) (Market Share: 35.58%)
2) Sony PSP - 56,274 (YTD: 183,028) (Market Share: 30.14%)
3) Nintendo DS - 44,608 (YTD: 206,696) (Market Share: 23.85%)
4) Nintendo Game Boy Advance SP - 13,317 (YTD: 102,457) (Market Share: 7.12%)
5) Nintendo GameCube - 5,359 (YTD: 32,537) (Market Share: 2.87%)
6) Microsoft Xbox - 498 (YTD: 2,183) (Market Share: 0.27%)
7) Nintendo Game Boy Advance - 332 (YTD: 2,639) (Market Share: 0.18%)

For the week Sony's PSP outsold the DS, despite the dual-screen handheld's strong market share overall. Sony's market share for the week was 65.72%. Nintendo's market share for the week was significantly less, at 34.02%. Luckily, for both Nintendo and Sony, their market share is far greater than that of Microsoft -- whose Xbox controls 0.27% of the Japanese videogame hardware market.

Japan's console sales week ending Jan 30th, 2005

Media Create has released its compiled list of top-selling hardware and software for Japan during the time frame between January 24-30.
Although the Nintendo DS has still sold more hardware and software units in Japan when you factor in the months the systems were on sale in 2004, the PSP has finally started to pull ahead of the DS in terms of weekly sales (suggesting that the shortages are over).

Hardware (Current Week - Previous Week - 2005 Total)
1. PSP - 74,405 - 66,543 - 267,602
2. PlayStation 2 - 58,673 - 56,374 - 305,285
3. Nintendo DS - 43,226 - 44,608 - 249,922
4. Game Boy Advance SP - 11,589 - 13,317 - 114,046
5. GameCube - 8,214 - 5,359 - 40,751
6. Xbox - 467 - 498 - 2,650
7. Game Boy Advance - 399 - 332 - 3,038

Sales for week-ending Feb 6th, 5005

The number one title this week, Super Robot Battle: Original Generation 2, sold about 108,000 units, while the rest of the top 10 were "negligible." On the hardware side, the PSP once again grabbed the most market share with over 33%. The PS2 captured over 32% and the Nintendo DS declined to just over 20%.

PSP - 48,781
PlayStation 2 - 47,963
Nintendo DS - 29,552
Game Boy Advance SP - 13,459
GameCube - 6,922
Game Boy Advance - 411
Xbox - 388


The PSP has outsold the DS in Japan (for this year sales)
http://www.m-create.com/eng/e_ranking.html
Im sure sony will be making much more profit than Japan due to the price increase.
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While the PSP looks good and all that, it's ironic that it will once again be Nintendo making the big bucks. Just like the last console generation, Xbox, GC and PS2, even though they sold the least consoles and have the smallest userbase and are considered the "kiddy console", Nintendo made the biggest profit from their GameCube. Cheap hardware, develop and publish the major titles, thereby getting most profit directly without any middle man.

Same thing going to happen here. DS has already sold like what, 3 million? 5 million? They also probably make some good profit from the hardware sale only. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Sony is biting the dust with the price of PSP hardware, selling it cheaper than it probably actually costs just to keep up with DS price. And then not only that, but some people are buying it not for the games, but for Mp3 or their DivX movies, in which case Sony would lose the most money.

I'd rather have a PSP over a DS, though I'm never going to buy either and never have bought a handheld, but you got to hand it to Nintendo when it comes to making the big bucks.
Sony doesn't make money on the hardware, never has, and hopefully it never will [because to make money on the hardware would mean that it pulls a Nintendo and launchs inferior hardware, and no I'm not talking about the GC as Nin takes a hit there along with Sony/MS, even moreso as it's selling for $50 less]. Sony makes it's money [which is more than what God and Nintendo combined make] off liscening. You think it's FREE to make ps2 games. That Sony sets up house without charging everyone rent? Do you live in a Socialist country because my Capitalistic upbringing is laughing at the very thought that you're using the words Hardware and Big Bucks in the same setence.

Sony charges EVERYONE to produce PS2 games, and when those games go on to sell 7 million units [figures that no GC game can ever even hope of dreaming to aspire to] they get 7 million times their royalty. Sony makes it's money off the games, and games the ps2 has. More games, better games, games that sell in such high quantity that Nintendo would sell Mario to Satan for a half those figures.

Hell, Wind Waker didn't even break 500,000 in Japan. Dragon Quest VIII in comparision has sold around 3.5 million units in Japan.

Seriously...where were you raised that you don't get this?
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How about I post some profit reports?

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/fina...ny20040728.pdf
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Tokyo, July 28, 2004 -- Sony Corporation today announced its consolidated results for the first quarter ended June 30, 2004 (April 1, 2004 to June 30, 2004).

Operating Income/Loss per Segment (First Quarter Ended June 30, 2004)
Electronics: $64
Games: ($27) loss
Music: ($10) loss
Pictures: $38
Financial Services: $96
Other: ($7) loss

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/fina.../04q2_sony.pdf

Electronics: $65
Games: ($0) loss
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http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnin...rel_q1_05.mspx

Operating Income/Loss per Segment (Q1 Ended September 30, 2004)
Client: $2,392 profit
Server and Tools: $701 profit
Information Worker: $1,891 profit
Microsoft Business Solutions: ($41) loss
MSN: $77 profit
Mobile and Embedded Devices: ($20) loss
Home and Entertainment: ($142) loss
Other: ($807) loss
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www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/news/041125e.pdf (H1)

Q1 Fiscal 2005 (Ended June 30, 2004)
Sales: 82,153 ($758)
Profit: 22,635 ($209)
Assets: 1,037,956 ($9,573)

Q2 Fiscal 2005 (Ended September 30, 2004)
Sales: 105,856 ($953)
Profit: 23,810 ($214)
Assets: 1,089,221 ($9,808)


www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/news/050126e.pdf

Nintendo Q3 Fiscal 2005 (Ended December 31, 2004)
Sales: 231,364 ($2,220)
Profit: 21,312 ($204)
Assets: 1,130,286 ($10,846)
http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewpost.php?pid=312066

For 2004, Sony made a profit of around $367 million dollars. Nintendo made a profit of $1017 million a.k.a. 1 billion. As for the DS, just wait until a Pokemon game comes out on the DS. Besides, the GBA SP plus the DS still sell more together than the PSP and that's what really counts here. Not only that, but you're assuming that the rest of the world will follow Japan's example. For example, in Japan, XBOX has probably sold around 30,000-50,000 units, whereas PS2 probably sold around 20 million. Is that the same case in USA? In USA, there's more like 32 million PS2s, and around 13-14 million XBOX's. Also, by the start of January when the PSP comes out in North America, the DS will have sold probably around 3.5 million worldwide if not more, and the PSP around 800,000 or something. You really think it'll just catch up magically and that Sony will actually have a success considering Nintendo made 3 times the money in 2004 even though there's 4+ times less GameCube's and about 10-15 million less GBA's than PS2's.
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What was Microsoft's "Other" losses? Lawsuits?

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How about I post some profit reports?
we were talking about the psp...and i was showing reports of where it has been released already. your numbers are like months before the psp even was released bro. show me some profit reports after the psp has been released here in north america.

if you looked at my post i said nothing about sony's other hardware, just the psp. I never said sony made alot of profit from other hardware, I basically was saying that the psp will change things. psp was released in december...your adding in 11 other months.

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Also, by the start of January when the PSP comes out in North America, the DS will have sold probably around 3.5 million worldwide if not more, and the PSP around 800,000 or something.
Like i said before, because the DS came out first. And in more than one region. The PSP just came out in december in one place, japan. Thats why the DS has sold so much more man. are you not seeing that. Im not surprized the DS has sold 3.5 mil when there hasnt been any competition. Wait until the PSP comes here and in other regions. Because as i showed above, where the PSP has been put out, the PSP is beating the DS. considering it came out months after the DS, thats pretty damn good.
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