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Old 03-05-05, 02:35 PM   #13
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Default Re: Doom3 Mac benchmarks...

the worst part was, when the new power mac G5's came out, the majority of the benchmarks they used to prove it were developed for apple pcs in the beginning. they didnt use a single benchmark i would use to compare the two. plus at that time you were paying over 2k for a pc that had a 9600pro ati card, which they finally upgraded later.

the only argument i can see a mac user winning is that apples are stable with OSx and fairly immune to virii. other than that they talk bs about having a couple more colors than pcs (that you would never use anyway) which makes them better art boxes as well. stupid apple using hippies =P
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Old 03-05-05, 06:00 PM   #14
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apples are not immune to virus's...

the only reason the wintel platform has a disproportionate number of security flaws is coz it is THE dominant platform... nothing else comes even close...

comparing apples to apples (pardon the pun) the osx/nix platforms would have an equal number of issues because no matter how secure one's app may be... the coding is not going to be perfect...
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Old 03-05-05, 06:53 PM   #15
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apples are not immune to virus's...

the only reason the wintel platform has a disproportionate number of security flaws is coz it is THE dominant platform... nothing else comes even close...

comparing apples to apples (pardon the pun) the osx/nix platforms would have an equal number of issues because no matter how secure one's app may be... the coding is not going to be perfect...
You're right in that they are not immune to virii.

The only real tangible security advantage is in Linux distros that REQUIRE the use of a root password. This is only due to the methodology of usage, by most users running on administrative accounts and opening crap emails and opening files downloaded from malicious websites...or p2p programs.

I honestly think, security-wise, Windows/OSx/Linux are all on the same playing field. FreeBSD, however, IS far more secure than the "big three". However, to run and use a FreeBSD requires a technical competency, that would make such a user safe on just about any OS anyways.
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Old 03-05-05, 07:47 PM   #16
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We've often heard about the "Megahertz Myth" -- the idea that Macs can perform as well as or better than PCs despite their lower clock speeds, and that's true for some operations. Games don't work that way, though: there's no substitute for CPU cycles when it comes to games like this
AMD 64's are clocked much lower than G5's yet perform much better in games than even the 3.4ghz p4 monsters. Just not suited for gaming I guess.
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Old 03-05-05, 08:06 PM   #17
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We've often heard about the "Megahertz Myth" -- the idea that Macs can perform as well as or better than PCs despite their lower clock speeds, and that's true for some operations. Games don't work that way, though: there's no substitute for CPU cycles when it comes to games like this. Many tests we've seen are based on Pentium systems working at higher clock speeds than this Power Mac G5, so that should be considered -- scaling up the G5's framerate numbers proportionally helps reduce that gap.
What a moron. It's been a while since I've heard from one of these people stuck in the Intel vs. Apple world.

Yep, only Macs have processors with a higher IPC than the P4. No other processor exists! Yep, there is certainly no processor out now that totally owns P4's in games despite it's much lower clock speed! MHz > All for games!
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Old 03-05-05, 08:11 PM   #18
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AMD 64's are clocked much lower than G5's yet perform much better in games than even the 3.4ghz p4 monsters. Just not suited for gaming I guess.
it's the MAC MYTH...

their proc's perform better in their advertising than others... it's in real world apps and games that they are simply not up to scratch...

reality sucks
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My god thats awful.. I get well over 150 FPS with the tic disabled.. in Doom 3 @ 1156x864.. with no Anti Aliasing..
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Old 03-06-05, 05:02 AM   #20
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Well I guess im the only one who noticed the "superiority complex" by the news poster. It really makes nvnews look bad imo. Its well known that mac's just cant compete with PC's but why do you feel the need to add dickhead comments like "hang with the big boys now" "#of fps playable!?".
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..feel the need to add dickhead comments ...
The use of expletives also do not carry any weight here dot50cal. It doesn't lend/add any credibilty for you with anyone here. Be warned use of such expletives is strictly forbidden.

It was hardly a "nyeer nyeer nyeerrr" post, just something you didn't see eye to eye. Something you maybe making a big deal out of for nothing.

And seriously the one post make looks nV news bad? Honestly.
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why all the laughter ? its obvious macs arent meant for gaming, at least they have the option of playing the game now. They gotta start somewhere, im sure if you give it a few more years they'll get it sorted out.
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why all the laughter ? its obvious macs arent meant for gaming, at least they have the option of playing the game now. They gotta start somewhere, im sure if you give it a few more years they'll get it sorted out.

I dont think people are particularly "laughing". Its just apple has been touting the MAC CPUS as the fastest thing ever built. Which bury PCS in perfornance. Obviously. Thats not the case. I dont understand the point of having a fast processor if you dont game. "Most" applications dont require it. Admittedly there are some exceptions. But I cant see paying top of the line for some mac system that cant even game. You'd be better off buying just a slower mac system. The point I think alot of people have been emphasizing is it really draws alot of questions into apples marketing scheme currently.
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Old 03-06-05, 07:39 AM   #24
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I am shocked at the numbers there. After so many months of optomization, that's the best they can do? That's really sad for my mac brethren. It's extremely puzzling, but at the heart of the matter, I think ATi just sucks at making drivers for mac. Apple needs to move to nVidia.
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