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Old 03-17-05, 01:52 AM   #13
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Default Re: 4ms~5ms Access Time 19" LCD

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What does the contrast ratio mean exactly?
Pretty much how many shades of black it can show, the higher the number the blacker the blacks.
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Default Re: 4ms~5ms Access Time 19" LCD

So if I may ask what is the reponse time of a normal CRT? compared to the 4ms LCD
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Old 03-17-05, 02:03 AM   #15
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Default Re: 4ms~5ms Access Time 19" LCD

I'm fairly sure a normal CRT does not have a response time... since it uses cathode ray tubes.... so 0ms
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Bernie Mac's contrast ratio is 2000:1
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Old 03-17-05, 09:56 AM   #17
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Bernie Mac's contrast ratio is 2000:1
Some people might find your attempts at humor offensive.
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Old 03-17-05, 10:40 AM   #18
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Some people might find your attempts at humor offensive.
That was kinda funny though
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Old 03-17-05, 10:50 AM   #19
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Default Re: 4ms~5ms Access Time 19" LCD

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Some people might find your attempts at humor offensive.
Some people should grow thicker skin then.

I just picked up a new Samsung 915n, an 8ms 19" panel. I had a 712n, a 12ms 17 inch. I have noticed a rather large difference in certain games, especially Half-Life 2, which had fair amounts of ghosting before. On the new panel, there is no ghosting that I can percieve. I'm sure it's not up to CRT standards on paper but the image quality is extremely sharp, the colors are very vibrant, and I can see no ghosting at all. I have always been under the impression that faster response times = lower overall IQ, but this is just not true with this panel. Strangely enough, contrary to what Tom's Hardware says, the interpolation in lower-than-native resolutions is extraordinary and I wouldn't hesitate to run 1024x768 or even 800x600 if the situation demanded it. I'm gonna be hanging on to this monitor for a few years at least.
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Old 03-17-05, 11:16 AM   #20
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Some people should grow thicker skin then.
Yes, perhaps. Let's all not get too off track on this though...but I will throw this out there. Would there have been a similar retort if someone said the following instead?

Carrot Top's contrast ratio is 2000:1

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Yes, perhaps. Let's all not get too off track on this though...but I will throw this out there. Would there have been a similar retort if someone said the following instead?

Carrot Top's contrast ratio is 2000:1

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Hahahah, what a horrible picture!

And a good question. A very good question.

And LCD monitors now are better than CRTs in every way, IMO.
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Hmm... I know they say 5ms for color but still this is kinda interesting.
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For those excited about that Viewsonic 4ms LCD: Be aware that the technology they're using is nothing revolutionary and in fact the screens are pretty much the same. All they're changing (and by they, I mean all LCD manufacturers, including BenQ, Samsung, etc...) is having the electronic controller onboard the LCD increase the voltage (i.e. from 1V to 1.2V), so the crystal can move faster due to an increase in the magnetic field. However, this is not applied to all colors and so the 4ms is actually 4ms for GtoG. This time certainly doesn't give the whole picture, and can be misleading. So beware.

Here's where I got all this info... That site is a long-standing reputable French hardware site. Scroll down to the "Overdrive" heading. What they conclude is that Overdrive doesn't really do much in terms of practical results.
Here's the link to the french site he mentions.
http://www.hardware.fr/html/news/cat22/page2.html
You'll have to translate ofcourse.
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Hmm... I know they say 5ms for color but still this is kinda interesting.


Here's the link to the french site he mentions.
http://www.hardware.fr/html/news/cat22/page2.html
You'll have to translate ofcourse.
Yeah, i suspected that was takeing place. A clanmate of mine (who works for a chip company in canada*) was talking about that in technical detail. Basicly it works, and he personly overvolted his 20" dell way beyond spec.

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Old 03-19-05, 02:00 PM   #24
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It might have worked for him but this begs the question: if it is so easy as just overvolting then why aren't they doing it already and selling them as 5ms units? Probably because it shortens the lifespan of the display and/or causes other problems. That is unless it's designed to handle it from the outset anyway. I'm guessing your friend is pressing his luck with that 20" Dell.
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