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Old 03-20-05, 01:13 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Update since open letter to nvidia is closed - MX 4000 w/7167 users

The MX4000 128mb 8x agp works perfectly with 7167 drivers without any extra adjustment in FEDORA CORE 3.

Type this in a terminal
Code:
yum install nvidia-glx kernel-module-nvidia-`(uname -r)`
this will also automatically update your xorg.conf - I have a via motherboard with a 4x agp slot and no nvidia-agp running and get 700fps in glxgears. Better than the default 250fps using the nv driver with a plain Fedora Core 3 install.

I use gentoo and ubuntu (hoary) and this is hands down the easiest no hassle install. No kernel headers or sources to install.
I guess this card is supported in Linux olSkool
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Old 03-20-05, 03:40 AM   #2
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Default Re: Update since open letter to nvidia is closed - MX 4000 w/7167 users

Im running Mandrake 10.1, the Nvidia 7167 driver wouldnt install at first so I patched it with "NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-7167-03.11.2005.diff.txt"
(running the latest MDK - kernel)

direct link

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/atta...chmentid=10793

available at the thread

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=47405

which was posted by Zander.

It seems to run stable, but how the 3D is working, performance wise, Im not the wiser. Thanks Zander for helping me out with this patch though.

It works, but how good it works I dont know.

Im having some problems converting the numbers in "glxgears" to something understandable.
What figures you got, buddy?
Run it in Gnome, if you can, so we can compare the numbers and see if they seem "match"

Thanks, Paltrude
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Old 03-20-05, 04:53 AM   #3
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Default Re: Update since open letter to nvidia is closed - MX 4000 w/7167 users

well i get 1000fps at 800x600 85hz 24 and the same at 1024x768
at 1600x1200 I get 800fps but glxgears isnt a good benchmark and doesnt really tell me how good the card will be with 3d apps

when I switch terminals the fps will go up to 9500

I had renderaccel, hwcursor,cursor shadow enabled and composite but after a while the system got pretty unstable - i commented out render accel and still had issues so all those items are gone or commented. With all the disk checks and crashing I can do without for now

glxgears sucks - with my laptop and its ATI card it will give me higher numbers if I move the mouse around

Im gonna install tuxracer and AA or UT to test the 3d output

I tried enabling SBA but it won't work for me - I know my agp chip and card support it but the module options arent taking

I have this in /etc/modprobe.conf

options NVdriver NVreg_EnableAGPSBA=1

Im using kernel 2.6.10-1.770
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Old 03-20-05, 08:30 AM   #4
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Default Re: Update since open letter to nvidia is closed - MX 4000 w/7167 users

glxgears gave me "3378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 675.600 FPS" as the highest as I'm running my 19" LGE 915FT PLus at 1280*1024@85Hz

Fast Writes are supported by both the AGP (mb) and the GPU but I have disabled it within mb BIOS, Fast Writes isn't supposed to change much here though, right?
SBA is enabled though.

cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card
Fast Writes: Supported
SBA: Supported
AGP Rates: 8x 4x
Registers: 0x1f000e1b:0x1f000302


cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/host-bridge
Host Bridge: PCI device 1106:3189
Fast Writes: Not Supported [disabled in BIOS]
SBA: Supported
AGP Rates: 8x 4x
Registers: 0x1f000a0b:0x00000b02


cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
Status: Enabled
Driver: AGPGART
AGP Rate: 8x
Fast Writes: Disabled
SBA: Enabled

My machine:

Hardware: Case: Colorcase Silent 69U6B, with the addition: Tagan [TG480-U01] 480W Silent PSU
MB: Abit KV7 1.0 - NB: VIA KT600 SB: VIA VT8237
BIOS: Latest Original [No mod] (ACPI / APIC 1.4 Enabled)
CPU: AMDXP Barton 2500+ (333[166])
CPU Cooler: ThermalTake Silent Viking II with Ductingmod and with Thermaltake COPPER SHIM.
RAM: 2* PC3200 - Corsair Value S - 256MB - Cas Latency 2.5 = 512MB (400[200])

GPU: Aopen Aelous [Fanless] - (Geforce 4 - MX4000, 128MB DDR, 8X AGP)
APU: - Integrated: VIA VT1616 - "AC97 v2.3 Codec - VIA Six-TRAC - 6 Channel"
NIC - Integrated: VIA VT6103 - 10/100Mbits - "Rhine 2"
Monitor: LG Flatron 915FT PLUS - 19" CRT

VIA-P.ata:
Primary Master: Maxtor Plus 8; 30Gb, UATA 133, 7200 RPM, Buffer Size: 2 MB, Fluid Dynamic Bearing motors
Primary Slave: Maxtor Plus 8; 30Gb, UATA 133, 7200 RPM, Buffer Size: 2 MB, Fluid Dynamic Bearing motors
Secondary Master: Plextor 708A - Latest firmware.
Secondary Slave: Western Digital; 80 Gb, UATA 100, 7200Rpm, Buffer Size: 8 MB - (Latest Firmware)

VIA-S.ata:
None

Extra:
Two 12" Fans, Front and Rear. (Sucks air into case in front, and blows out in the rear.)

OS: GNU-Linux - Mandrake 10.1 - Kernel: 2.6.8.1-24mdk
Tweaks: Fast Writes Disabled in BIOS.
Kernel Tweaks: "FORCE NO IOAPIC" is ENABLED in GRUB Boot Loader [I have only one CPU so it really isnt needed]
[Note: LOCAL APIC IS NOT "DISABLED BY FORCE" and ACPI IS ENABLED]
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Old 03-20-05, 11:01 AM   #5
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Not sure how much of a difference FastWrites are supposed to make. What option did you use to enable SBA?
Looks like 4x agp and 8x agp also don't make much of a difference
Im getting 3441 frames in 5.0 seconds = 688.200 FPS at 1600x1200 @75 on a Panasonic PanaSyncS21 Monitor(its heavier than your car)

cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card
Fast Writes: Supported
SBA: Supported
AGP Rates: 4x 2x 1x
Registers: 0x1f000217:0x1f000104

cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/host-bridge
Host Bridge: PCI device 1106:3205
Fast Writes: Not Supported
SBA: Supported
AGP Rates: 4x
Registers: 0x1f000a04:0x00000104

cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
Status: Enabled
Driver: AGPGART
AGP Rate: 4x
Fast Writes: Disabled
SBA: Disabled


My machine:

Hardware: Case: Cheapest I could find
MB: PCChips M825G KM400 SB: VIA VT8237
BIOS: Latest Original [No mod]
CPU: AMD Sempron 2500+ (333[166])
RAM: 1* PC3200 - 512MB

GPU: Rosewill RW400-128D Geforce 4 - MX4000, 128MB DDR, 8X AGP
APU: - Integrated: VIA - "AC97 v2.3 Codec - VIA Six-TRAC - 6 Channel"Disable
PCI: - Soundblaster Live!
NIC - Integrated: VIA VT6103 - 10/100Mbits - "Rhine 2"
Monitor: Panasopnic S21 1600x1200 @ 75
VIA-P.ata:
Primary Master: Maxtor DiamondMax 10 200GB 7200RPM P-ATA/133 Hard Drive Buffer Size: 16 MB, Maxtor-developed Shock Protection, System (SPS) and Data Protection System (DPS).
Primary Slave: Western Digital 120Gb, UATA 133, 7200 RPM, Buffer Size: 8 MB
Secondary Master: Sony DVD-RW/CDRW
Secondary Slave:

VIA-S.ata:
None

Extra:
USB: Logitech Cordless Desktop Pro (using USB HID)
USB: WUSB11 2.6 (using atmelwlandriver)
PCI: Pixelview TV PRO ULTRA -TV/FM Tuner w/remote Inputs=Composite,S-vid,Coaxial
OS: GNU-Linux - Fedora Core 3 - Kernel: 2.6.10-1.770_FC3
Tweaks: none
Kernel Tweaks: None
ACPI is Enabled
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Old 03-20-05, 06:12 PM   #6
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Default Re: Update since open letter to nvidia is closed - MX 4000 w/7167 users

Quote:
Originally Posted by magneto
Not sure how much of a difference FastWrites are supposed to make. What option did you use to enable SBA?
Looks like 4x agp and 8x agp also don't make much of a difference
Im getting 3441 frames in 5.0 seconds = 688.200 FPS at 1600x1200 @75 on a
I did nothing, I patched the driver, with the cumulative patch, and installed it.

SBA was enabled when X was loaded. Simple as that.

I tried enabling Fast Writes in BIOS but the kernel didnt care about that, so Fast Writes remained disabled. In other words, enabling fast writes in BIOS gave me the same cat /proc/driver/nvidia/*** results as I have already posted.

Seems to me were getting the same results, or close by, right?

Quote:
Originally Posted by magneto
cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card
Fast Writes: Supported
SBA: Supported
AGP Rates: 4x 2x 1x
Registers: 0x1f000217:0x1f000104

cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/host-bridge
Host Bridge: PCI device 1106:3205
Fast Writes: Not Supported
SBA: Supported
AGP Rates: 4x
Registers: 0x1f000a04:0x00000104

cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
Status: Enabled
Driver: AGPGART
AGP Rate: 4x
Fast Writes: Disabled
SBA: Disabled
Hmm, strange...
I have NO idea...

Quote:
Originally Posted by magneto
PCI: - Soundblaster Live!

Monitor: Panasonic S21 1600x1200 @ 75
Panasonic PanaSyncS21 Monitor(its heavier than your car)

OS: GNU-Linux - Fedora Core 3 - Kernel: 2.6.10-1.770_FC3
Tweaks: none
Kernel Tweaks: None
ACPI is Enabled
I suppose you know that prior to Audigy 2, no Creative sound card supported APIC? I personally refuse working with Creatives cards, at least earlier than Audigy 2, because of their lack of "standards". I hope it is disabled if you use it. [Id use the AC97, though it doesnt sound as good.

It should work fine with just ACPI though.

That IS one heavy mother! 21" LOL
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Old 03-20-05, 10:44 PM   #7
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yeah I think we are getting pretty much the same performance although I would have hoped yours would be better with the 8x agp - truth is we really dont know because we arent using a true benchmark

Nah I opted for the Old soundblaster I had because the onboard was kind of crummy and thet soundblaster has the digital out and I was gonna make this a media center - the soundblaster sounds too good to scrap - its from 1999-2000 lol

Have you tried any games?
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