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Old 06-01-05, 12:21 AM   #217
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I am wondering does anybody run or tried running the following.

Gentoo-Sources 2.6.9
Nvidia Drivers 6629
No AGPGART

That is how a friend of mines computer is setup with it working just fine... no problems perhaps somebody can say if they have that setup or have tried.
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Old 06-01-05, 07:36 AM   #218
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I doubt it.
I moved the card to a second, newer (nForce2/400) single CPU machine (that runs Windows XP and FC3) and the card worked just fine.
No artifacts (Windows). no Xids (Linux.)

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Hello,
Windows games mostly use directx, which is a different story. my card also gave no artifacts on directx games, but I had problems with OpenGL games. Furthermore, I continued having problems with the 6600GT on an NForce 3 motherboard, so I doubt it is the recent chipset, or the lack of SMP for that matter, that helped you.
Still, your result might be interesting. Can other ppl with Nforce2 chipsets confirm they get no problems?
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Old 06-01-05, 07:39 AM   #219
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according to their /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz : APPENDIX F

Q: My system runs, but seems unstable. What is wrong?
A: Your stability problems may be AGP-related. See Appendix F for details.

I've set AGP drive strength BIOS to 0xEA, it was before set to 0xFF. And they say: "Setting either nibble to 0xF generally restults in severe stability problems." So maybe this correction will fix that? I've also turned off all fast read-write and other accelerations. And I've set AGPx2. This is the safest configuration I can imagine. If it fails - I'll go back to driver 5336. (we will see in few days or weeks.. - I have 24/7 )


BUT - nvcrash never hangs X! (either before changing BIOS and after). I have Xvid errors in /var/log/syslog, but it is not eating 100% CPU and is not crashing. But I have crashes during browsing the web, or when working with openoffice.

also, when I run nvcrash (or anything glx) under valgrind (or alleyoop) I got gazillions of errors "conditional jump depends on uninitialized variable". Do you have them too?

I'm using debian sarge
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Old 06-01-05, 08:18 AM   #220
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Hello,
Windows games mostly use directx, which is a different story. my card also gave no artifacts on directx games, but I had problems with OpenGL games. Furthermore, I continued having problems with the 6600GT on an NForce 3 motherboard, so I doubt it is the recent chipset, or the lack of SMP for that matter, that helped you.
Still, your result might be interesting. Can other ppl with Nforce2 chipsets confirm they get no problems?

I should re-iterate:
I tested the card under both Linux (FC3) and Windows (XP).
Under both OpenGL (Linux, Windows) and DX9 (Windows)
It failed on my Asus A7M266D (2xMP2400) and worked just fine on my Gigabyte (GA-7N400L, XP1900).

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Old 06-01-05, 08:29 AM   #221
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I'm running an nforce2 chipset (firmware upgraded) Asus A7N8X Deluxe and am having problems.

I think the issue stems from what kernel, glibc, gcc combo you're running with 6629 giving better results than 7174.
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Old 06-02-05, 02:50 AM   #222
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I should re-iterate:
I tested the card under both Linux (FC3) and Windows (XP).
Under both OpenGL (Linux, Windows) and DX9 (Windows)
It failed on my Asus A7M266D (2xMP2400) and worked just fine on my Gigabyte (GA-7N400L, XP1900).
(okay, i'm a new user on the forum - been reading here for a while, read through this whole thread and a few others on the issue, time to chime in)

so you're saying that your one card, on linux and on windows, on the Asus mobo failed in both cases, but that same card, on linux and windows, on the Gigabyte, worked? doesn't that clearly rule out the possibility that it's the x.org, the nvidia driver, the kernel, and the card itself, and pretty clearly point to a mobo issue (IRQs, AGP, BIOS, etc.)? other second-hand reports of similar problems with ATI cards would seem to support this as well.

anyway my own story is pretty much the same as what's been discussed here already. for the last few weeks, i've been experiencing periodic (sometimes on the order of hours, sometimes days) X crashes, where the screen and keyboard freeze, but the cursor is still active. i ssh in from another box, see that X is running at 99%, and kill -9 it, which causes it to reset and work once again. sometimes however, it's hard frozen (cursor can't move either, can't ssh in), so i have to hard reboot. i actually haven't changed my system configuration in a while, but recently started using a p2p client regularly and that's when i noticed the crashing. i figured it was the constant HD / memory / CPU usage, but i've stopped using it since and still experience the same crashes (though less frequently) when using firefox. i haven't had any trouble with 3D apps, though i haven't run many lately (don't game).

my system specs...FC3 with 2.6.10-1.766, NVIDIA driver 1.0-6629, gcc version 3.4.2 20041017 (Red Hat 3.4.2-6.fc3), X.org 6.8.1-12. hardware is an AMD Athlon XP 2600+, Abit KD7A mobo (i think VIA chipset), and a Chaintech FX 5600GT, VBIOS 04.31.20.69.11. a few other stats:

Code:
> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
Status:          Enabled
Driver:          AGPGART
AGP Rate:        8x
Fast Writes:     Disabled
SBA:             Enabled

> cat /proc/interrupts
           CPU0
  0:  177894959          XT-PIC  timer
  1:     144861          XT-PIC  i8042
  2:          0          XT-PIC  cascade
  3:          0          XT-PIC  uhci_hcd
  7:         57          XT-PIC  parport0
  8:          1          XT-PIC  rtc
  9:          0          XT-PIC  acpi
 10:     380357          XT-PIC  VIA8233, uhci_hcd
 11:   22284315          XT-PIC  eth0, ehci_hcd, uhci_hcd, ohci1394, nvidia
 12:    1599245          XT-PIC  i8042
 14:     526663          XT-PIC  ide0
 15:    3199054          XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:          0
ERR:          1
of course, i look forward to any resolution of this problem. i'm planning on trying out the crash code (cone3d?) that was posted to see if i can force the behavior and moving on from there.
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Old 06-02-05, 03:13 AM   #223
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so you're saying that your one card, on linux and on windows, on the Asus mobo failed in both cases, but that same card, on linux and windows, on the Gigabyte, worked? doesn't that clearly rule out the possibility that it's the x.org, the nvidia driver, the kernel, and the card itself, and pretty clearly point to a mobo issue (IRQs, AGP, BIOS, etc.)? other second-hand reports of similar problems with ATI cards would seem to support this as well.
You seem to have missed my previous post.

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I just lost my test case.
The machine in question crashed over night, burning 2 of the 4 DIMMs. I did manage to get it going again but one can't really use it for stability tests.
Anyways, just for the heck of it I installed Windows XP (12 reboots, I couted.) on what's left of the machine and tried running 3DMark 2005. While it didn't crash (or BSOD) I had severe artifacts problem. (It didn't even manage to run dxdiag with artifacts.)
When I switched the device back to my old GF4Ti, the machine managed to loop 3D Mark 2003 for hours without a problem.

In short, due to the burn-out, I can't be sure that it was indeed a hardware configuration problem that caused my grief (AMD 762MP + FX6600GT), but it is the only logical assumption.
As for your problem, can you manually set the IRQ, preventing IRQ sharing on the nVidia card?
Can use disable the side band addressing? (SBA?)
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Old 06-02-05, 06:41 AM   #224
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new 7664 driver released... can anyone with those Xid errors test it and report if it is finally fixed? the changelog didn't say anything about it... I hope to be able to test as soon as I go back home..
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Old 06-02-05, 09:48 AM   #225
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No, I've still the same problem...

but I've found something huhmm interesting
Quote:
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Q. My kernel log contains messages that are prefixed with "Xid"; what do these
messages mean?

A. "Xid" messages indicate that a general GPU error occurred, most often due
to the driver misprogramming the GPU
or to corruption of the commands sent
to the GPU. These messages provide diagnostic information that can be used
by NVIDIA to aid in debugging reported problems.
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Old 06-02-05, 09:59 AM   #226
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I've got the best aid for nVidia. Download Enemy Territory or buy (download? ) Doom3 or UT2004. And play it 24/7!
Then you'll have lots of debugging information which you need...
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Old 06-02-05, 04:46 PM   #227
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For me, the Xid errors have gone away with the 7664 drivers.

// vaio fs115m with Geforce 6200Go TC
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Old 06-03-05, 01:45 AM   #228
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Sadly, I still get XIDs.

NVRM: Xid: 25, L1 -> L0
NVRM: Xid: 13, 0002 beef3097 00004097 00001efc 4000005b 00000002
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