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Old 04-20-05, 08:37 AM   #1
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I know there are alot of EQ2/SOE haters out there but I never had an issue and loved EQ2 since the day I started playing but the new service they will be adding in June is truly a smack in the face to all thier honest players.

They will be creating a new server that will allow players to sell characters, items and ingame currency for real cash, basically they will allow other players to do what they have been doing through 3rd parties through them, they gain a small percentage of your sales... Now sure this is on a new server but heres the kicker... if the demand on an excisting server is strong enough they will open the system on an excisting server...

WTF, SOE couldn't fight IGE,Ebay and PlayerAuctions so insted its moderating it ingame now through allowing it? What bull****.... I will continue player untill this affects my server but once it does im gone, **** this crap.

http://stationexchange.station.sony.com/

Just to clear things up, Im pissed that they would sink so low to allow what they have been fighting for so long on a special server as long as they are the mediators. Now SOE will NOT be selling things themselves, they just make sure no one gets screwed over (buy an account online and then a week later the guy reclaims it). Its good that they are protecting thier customers but its just ****ty that after so long of saying "This is wrong and we cannot allow it!" now they changed thier point of view to "This is allowed as long as its on THIS server and the transaction goes through ME... and I get part of the profit".

This is not going to the current servers as of yet but considering how they lied out of the asses and said that they had polls running (where?!?!?!) and people wanted it, they gave it to them on NEW SERVERS.

Soon as it hits Mistmoore my account is canceled and my special edition is going in the trash, I wont even give them the chance to profit off my account...
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I can honestly say I am not thrilled about this at all either. People with high dollars IRL should not excel to be better at a video game than those without. It doesnt make sense.
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Old 04-20-05, 08:52 AM   #3
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I dont trust anything SOE says anymore.

For one they lied about frogloks the entire time they knew there was no existing quest to unlock them.

Two they are changing the combat system

And now the station exchange? This is an all time low and will set a precedent for all other mmorpg. Yes UO did it too, but it not the same thing as one of the biggest MMORPG developers doing it.


i am still enjoying EQ2, only reason I am still playing.

Here is an example how it will effect, is when Master spells drop now people who might have put them on the broker, will now have an option to sell for cash. While they could have done it before, many people could not be hassled now they make it so easy why not they figure.
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Old 04-20-05, 08:54 AM   #4
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Makes sense to me. "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em". Smart move on Sony's part. And besides, if some idiot had loads of cash to blow on make-believe items in a video game, I say let them waste their money. What difference does it make to your playing atmosphere if some idiot is all decked-out with a bunch of ub3r l33t gear?

The only disturbing this about this is it makes it possible for people to quit their jobs and play EQ2 as a career. Yeesh.
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Well this just blows!
First they go and ban all accounts connecting to selling coin for real cash and now they want to start this crap by there selves!?
Thats so sad it makes me luagh!
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Makes sense to me. "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em". Smart move on Sony's part. And besides, if some idiot had loads of cash to blow on make-believe items in a video game, I say let them waste their money. What difference does it make to your playing atmosphere if some idiot is all decked-out with a bunch of ub3r l33t gear?

The only disturbing this about this is it makes it possible for people to quit their jobs and play EQ2 as a career. Yeesh.

The main difference to me is, while yes we all know it was impossible to stop 100%, but the way it will be done now will be condoning it.

You only had a few percentage of people who were selling. It might seem like a lot, but in reality most people cannot be bothered because of dealing with scammers, and paying ridiculous prices, and knew it was illegal by Sony standards.


Now when someone gets a great drop like a Master spell..or has lots of plat...and says why not I will just email it to the auctioneer and make some real cash...it just opens up a whole new market.

This is suppose to be a game, not whoever has most IRL can get what they want. I play EQ2 to escape that.
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The main difference to me is, while yes we all know it was impossible to stop 100%, but the way it will be done now will be condoning it.

You only had a few percentage of people who were selling. It might seem like a lot, but in reality most people cannot be bothered because of dealing with scammers, and paying ridiculous prices, and knew it was illegal by Sony standards.


Now when someone gets a great drop like a Master spell..or has lots of plat...and says why not I will just email it to the auctioneer and make some real cash...it just opens up a whole new market.

This is suppose to be a game, not whoever has most IRL can get what they want. I play EQ2 to escape that.
Amen!
Whats even worse is that soe always seemd conserned about the ingame market, but this could drasticly change that. Just like you say about the master spells ...
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It also comes down to the people who buy it. The big issue with me is. If you're capable and have the money your willing to spend. You can be significantly better than those who dont have the money to do it. A game is supposed to be fair to everyone. This gives certain players considerable advantages over others. It also opens up nasty problems with trusting players and loot.
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Old 04-20-05, 09:05 AM   #9
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Here is my post on the official forums...

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This is crap... I will also be probably going to WoW (haven't bought the game yet so don't know, hehe). I don't care if its only on a specific server, its still giving in to what SOE has been fighting since EQL. I supported SOE ever since I originaly started playing EQL and through EQ2's Beta and even recently when tons of people complain about normal issues but this is PATHETIC. SOE saw how much money IGE, Ebay and PlayerAuctions were making and needed to get in. Now I know my server wont be affected but its just the moral point that SOE would sink to low, while Blizzard may have thier issues they didn't sink to the point of helping people sell items,coin and characters.

I know your a business but your customers should come first, Im pretty sure that more then 80% of the community would not agree on this (seeing by the responses), why wasn't there polls like you claimed? I never once saw anything related to this ANYWHERE yet you claim to have been doing research. Sure you asked EQL people awhile back but that has NOTHING to do with us, YOU yourself said many times that EQ2 and EQL are two different enties yet now you want to introduce something that EQL people didn't mind without asking us.

All you care about is the profit and not out the community, I would love to be proven wrong on this, please do but I dout SOE would ever care about the community that just pays its subcription and only about the ones they can gain extra off...

I will be throwing my SE Game in the trash, I don't want you getting any more profits from my account...
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I have been reading their forums, and I dont think I have seeen so many posts and topics on one subject in a long time in EQ2.

If you look at mjority of people who are posting you can see majoirty of people are against it. What gets me is where was this poll for EQ2? I rememeber that poll for EQ1..but devs always kept telling us EQ2 is not EQ1...doesnt make any sense.

I dont know what I will do if they implement it...really sucks becuase I was having so much fun. But I really think Sony better rethink this they might have a lot of cancelllations based upon the posts on the boards.
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I still don't see what the big deal is. You can just not participate in the selling, which is apparently only gauranteed to be on one server anyway. I don't see any reason to get all up in arms about someone else having tons of great stuff.

You could always play, you know, a GOOD MMORPG.
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oh i forgot this whole banning the botters a week or two ago, where they banned 700 accounts..now makes sense...they doing that so they can get rid of the competition to make money themselves...

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