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Old 01-15-03, 02:15 AM   #13
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Well,
in my case I think nothing is wrong in the
BIOS as the graphic card works with WindowsXP.
------------

Here is some news on "NvAGP = 0":

"NvAGP = 0" did not work with my card.
Still the same black monitor.

I found something very interesting at the
software database at SuSE, though.
(sdb.suse.de, sdb.suse.com ?)
There you can find articles on similar problems.

For instance, PCs with Pentium4 CPUs might have
the wrong Linux kernel installed.

Look for "Versions" --> "8.0".

The Nvidia driver might have problems with the
wrong Linux kernel if it is a "SMP" (support multi
processor) kernel. I think in my case I do have
a wrong kernel and I will install one for single
processor machines.

Should you have a Pentium4 (and only one, not more) and SuSE 8.0 then pay attention to your VT login screen. Do you see something about "2.4.18-64GB-SMP"?

This would indicate that you have a kernel for
multi processor support.
Also you can issue the command "procinfo".
That will tell you details about your kernel.
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Old 01-15-03, 07:17 AM   #14
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Well, in my case I think nothing is wrong in the BIOS as the graphic card works with WindowsXP.
No, XP might work even with PnP OS set to yes and/or Assign IRQ set to no. The philosophy of Linux is, don't duplicate work that is better done somewhere else (in the BIOS), which is what those two settings control. PnP OS set to no means that the BIOS will initialize all devices (which works much better). If it's set to yes, the OS will initialize some devices -- however, Linux won't. The kernel people have seen the lack of good documentation for the PnP spec, and the fact that the vast majority of BIOSes can initialize devices just fine with no help, and said "it's pointless to duplicate that functionality". Windows, on the other hand, duplicates it anyway.

Assign IRQ works much the same way. With it set to yes, the BIOS will give your graphics card an IRQ, which the OS will use. With it set to no, the OS should assign an IRQ if it's needed (and it almost always is...), but again, Linux developers thought "why? when the BIOS does a better job anyway?" and didn't code that functionality duplication in. Microsoft did.

In short, yes, these settings could be "wrong" in your BIOS, but XP would still work.
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Old 01-15-03, 02:42 PM   #15
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Duplicating the functionality is stupid. Unless, of course the BIOS lacks that function....
In which case, what the Linux kernel people have done is stupid.
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Old 01-15-03, 03:43 PM   #16
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:-( this bios stuff does not help. the card is correctly setup with irq 11.

last line in X*log is something like :

*NVIDIA* : setting resolution to 1280
*NVIDIA* : agp 4x successfully initialized

and then black screen

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Old 01-15-03, 04:09 PM   #17
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michael- forgive a stupid question ...
are you sure that your monitor can set a 1280x1024 screen?
Lot's of 17" monitors cannot go above 1024x768 --a very standard resolution.
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Old 01-16-03, 12:56 AM   #18
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:-) Thats what I thought initialy. But right know Its running 1600x1200 85 Hz. with "nv"

thx

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Old 01-17-03, 08:32 AM   #19
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Now it works!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yesterday I checked my PC's BIOS.
I did not find anything to assign an IRQ to
PCI VGA nor to disable PnP OS.

So I checked the Linux kernel and indeed it was
one of the 2.4.18-64GB-SMP ones.
I then tried to change it.

This helped in the long run.
In between I could not boot from the boot
floppy nor from the rescue floppy.
(At present I have to start my system from
a floppy due to WindowsXP and other reasons).

This is what needs to be done as root with SuSE
8.0 systems and a single Pentium4 CPU which
accidentally run a "2.4.18-64GB-SMP" kernel:

1.)
Boot to runlevel 1 or 3.
Start YAST and choose "Software installation".

2.)
Choose the software group "System/kernel" and
mark the kernel "k_deflt" for installation
(character "X" on the left of that line).

Then mark the kernel "k_smp" for deinstallation
(character "d" on the left).

Have YAST apply your changes.
If Linux is your only OS on that PC then reboot
to runlevel 1 or 3.

If you have another OS and LILO on a floppy
or boot floppies then renew those floppies
and put the new k_deflt kernel on them
BEFORE you reboot your machine.
Do the renewal with YAST or run "lilo" by command line.


4.)
It is not neccessary to install the Nvidia drivers
again!

Start "sax2" after you booted with the new Linux
kernel to configure X.
"sax2" worked really fine.

I had it load my existing /etc/X11/XF86Config
and only changed the 3D options.
There I ticked "glx".

The important lines with an "AGP 8x" card are:

In /etc/X11/XF86Config:
...
Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"
Option "NvAgp" "1" <---- this line
EndSection
...

and in /etc/modules.conf:

...
#pre-install mga /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart"
#pre-install r128 /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart"
#pre-install radeon /sbin/modprobe "-k" "agpgart"
#options agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1
options nvidia NVreg_ReqAGPRate=8 <--- this line
...


X now uses 1024 x 768, 24 bit color, 85 or 86 Hz
vertical refresh.
I have a "Macom S70" monitor, 17 inches.

===============================================
Should anything go wrong with changing Linux
kernels and you can't boot at all then just
start the normal installation process.
That is:
Boot from SuSE 8.0 CD1, choose your installation
language and click "apply".
The installation process continues and detects
that you already have a Linux installation.
There you can choose to "boot your installed Linux". The root filesystem is searched for and
your old Linux is started.
Then you can verify your kernel etc.
===============================================

Hope this report is useful to some people!

Many thanks to all who helped.

By the way:
My sound card is working as well, now.
With the old kernel it just refused to.
I ran YAST to verify the sound card detection
from the very first installation.

To all German people:
My PC is of the MEDION brand, bought at ALDI
in November 2002. One of you might have the same
one or might know somebody with the same PC
who still fights with Linux and this Nvidia
graphic card.

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Old 01-17-03, 09:41 AM   #20
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:-) Nice for you. But what about the people with an SMP Box like me

/me <- looser

But anyway ... I am not going to give up. On the list for today is :

a) Removing the BusID in XFree86Config
b) using VideoRam 131072

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Old 01-19-03, 11:30 AM   #21
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Hi,

I have compiled the last kernel for suse distribution kernel-source-2.4.19.SuSE-134 and nvidia drives don't work (4191).

I have a SMP box too. Solution proposed by Andre is not good for me.

I have read the problem of the black screen in other posts, for other video cards and other linux distributions. Nobody propose a solution. Probably we will have to wait for a new verion of the drivers.
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Old 01-19-03, 04:17 PM   #22
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Yop ! Thats my opinion too. Can you hear me "nvidia". .... I am willing to debug your software. Pls provide "us" with the possibility to do so. Release the code that it not corvered by any NDA.

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Old 01-20-03, 05:13 AM   #23
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I have changed my video card. I had a Quadro 2 Pro and now I have an old geforce 2 gts. The problem is the same. I will test a geforce 4 MX 440 in the evening.
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Old 01-21-03, 04:53 AM   #24
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Two diferent smp boxes:

A. Motherboard Tyan Tiger 230, two pentium III, and SuSE 8.1. Nvidia driver 4191 works with a Geforce 4 Mx 440 or a Quadro 2 Pro or a Geforce 4 TI 4200.

B. Dell Precision 530, two pentium Xeon and SuSE 8.1. Nvidia driver 4191 does not work with any of the graphics cards. However, It works sith SuSE 7.3.

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