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Old 05-08-05, 11:25 PM   #37
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Well, there's always spraypaint and glosscoat!

On PC gaming becoming stale, I only partially agree. I love way to many titles both current and old to fully agree. I think the worst thing about PC gaming is that they haven't developed (to my knowledge) a suitable replacement for wasd controls. They need to integrate a true gamer's tool into the keyboard. It's loooong overdue. I don't mean an in hand controller, but something built into the keyboard that actually fits most hands and boasts some ergonomics. Kludgy offset keys just don't suit our high end gaming rigs.
I agree. I think the Z Board is gonna start the gaming keyboard trend.. (at least I hope)
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Old 05-09-05, 09:37 PM   #38
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Stolen from [H]. WOW?
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Wow....Bye bye PC gaming...

2 types of Xbox Live:
Xbox Live Silver (no subscription required)
Xbox Live Gold (subscription benefits)

Features for Gold service
* Also for Silver
# Also for Offline

- Seamless transition to Xbox Live account from Xbox to Xbox 360
- Access to MMOs (additional fees may apply) *
- Free Xbox Live weekends *
- Multiplayer online gameplay
- Avatar for gamer profile * #
- Motto for gamer profile * #
- Personalized look for Xbox System Guide * #
- Offline achievments * #
- Online achievements *
- Access to other players' Gamer cards via Live *
- Cumulative gamer score * #
- Location/language profile * #
- Reputation *
- Enahnced matchmaking using above
- Skill level matchmaking
- Gameplay style profile (casual, competitive, etc.)
- Recent players list *
- Free and premium download game content *
- Free and premium downloadable movies, music, tv *
- Downloadable demos/trailers *
- Microtransactions *
- Custom playlist in every game * #
- Play music from portable devices * #
- View images from digital camera * #
- Strem media from Windows XP * #
- Interactive screen savers * #
- Track info for CDs * #
- Communication with voice, video or text *

360 HW:
1. Support for DVD-video, DVD-Rom, DVD-R/RW, CD-DA, CD-Rom, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 cd, JPEG photo CD
2. All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing
3. Customizable face plates to change appearance
4. 3 USB 2.0 ports
5. Support for 4 wireless controllers
6. Detachable 20GB drive
7. Wi-Fi ready

Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
- 3 symmetrical cores at 3.2 GHz each
- 2 hardware threads per core
- 1 VMX-128 vector unit per core
- 1 MB L2 cache

CPU Game Math Performance
- 9 billion dots per second

Custom ATI Graphics Processor
- 500 MNz
- 10 MB embedded DRAM
- 48-way parallel floating-point shader pipelines
- unified shader architecture

Memory
-512 MB GDDR3 RAM
- 700 MNz DDR

Memory Bandwidth
- 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
- 256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
- 21.6 GB/s frontside bus

Audio
- Mulitchannel surround sond output
- Supports 48khz 16-bit audio
- 320 independent decompression channels
- 32 bit processing
- 256+ audio channels
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Old 05-09-05, 09:49 PM   #39
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PC gaming continues to be extremely stale for me. I have a pretty nice setup, yet I'm not really playing anything that stresses it. MMO does nothing for me, there are no decent shooters out since HL2, any racing and sports games I buy for Xbox so this leaves my computer pretty much for Web surfing. I intend to buy TrackMania, and possibly Psychonauts, though the latter likely will be for Xbox as well.

From my point of view, PC gaming is in a nasty catch 22. In order for something to be a success these days, it has to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Unfortunately that means sacrificing features the power users demand.
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Old 05-09-05, 09:52 PM   #40
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Anyone notice that the PS2 has more bandwidth than the Xbox 360. Paper-specs...meh.
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Old 05-09-05, 10:13 PM   #41
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oh no, not cb8 !!!
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Old 05-09-05, 11:46 PM   #42
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From my point of view, PC gaming is in a nasty catch 22. In order for something to be a success these days, it has to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Unfortunately that means sacrificing features the power users demand.
Sad but very true.
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Old 05-10-05, 01:39 AM   #43
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Xbox 2 is going to be awesome once its out.. (like late this year right?)

Its graphics is going to be better than the best PC stuff.. or at the very least, equal to the best PC stuff, for hundreds less.

But after a year or so, the PC will catch up.. and after a few years, surpass it.. like always.

I'm hoping future PC games will be able to take advantage of a PC more powerful processors, and have more enemies, better AI, more objects etc..

Although since, gaming is starting to become multiplatform... like what other people have said, serving the lowest demoniator may put the damper on PC games.


Console games generally never have the depth of some PC games have though... or the user mod and community around them... The day PC gaming dies, is probably the day I drastically cut down on gaming too..
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Old 05-10-05, 03:40 AM   #44
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you bunch of nvidia fanboy I wonder if you would have wanted a ps3 as much if ati made the graphic chip for the system
/raises his hand in guilt

Yup, I would be praising it if there was a nVidia GPU inside.
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Old 05-10-05, 04:02 AM   #45
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Flippin' heck that's powerful. 48 'unified' shading units?! I mean... I know it's not the R520 (it's the R500 supposedly), but if that's the kind of complexity we can expect from next gen GPUs... Well.. yeah. Insanity. Still.. I wonder what kind of performance overhead there is from having so called 'unified' units rather than specialised ones.
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Old 05-10-05, 04:14 AM   #46
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you bunch of nvidia fanboy I wonder if you would have wanted a ps3 as much if ati made the graphic chip for the system
Imagine that an NVIDIA fan site having NVIDIA fanboys.
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I'm definitly buying an XBOX 360 for sure this year. I really can't wait to see what this little machine is going to offer on the MTV special this Thursday.
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Old 05-10-05, 11:10 AM   #48
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It still uses dual core cpu's, a hard drive, an ati video card and memory for texturing, seems like a pc to me.

It's funny, console fan's bash pc's, yet consoles slowly become pc's. Not just the hardware, but look, downloadable skins, content, patches, xbox live, online gaming, and it's just hilarious to walk into a store and hear how psyched some of the people are, OMG!! downloadable skins....Its like duuuude, pc gamers have been doing this stuff for years and years I mean don;t get me wrong, I like a good console every now and then, even though my ps2 is currently collecting it's 5th layer of dust, so yeah, i'm somehwhat biased toward pc gaming-but sh*t, why not? Look at the things you can do and have been able to do on a pc vs. what their finally getting around to doing on a console.

The difference between the two seems simple. Console fan's are like monkey's, they do the little they've been taught and go ape **** insane when introduced to something different and new. They need things to be simple or you lose their attention. Pc gamers are like mechanics, they like to tinker inside " the box " and upgrade it or just put things to their liking inside. We like to have more control over what we use to play a game. And in my travels, i've found pc gamers to be snobby and some what rude, while I've found console gamers easier to chat with, but very lost once "pc" comes up in a coversation. Not here, i'm talking in real life, if u just start to bull**** with a guy @ best buy or compusa. You guys here are alright.

All in all, to me, xbox 360 looks like a pc with a controller instead of a mouse, but that's me.
there are no dual core cpu's in it, just dual cpu's

They are powerpc based, simplistically, G5's. The architecture is miles away from being a PC. The only PC-like component is the video. Else, it's vastly different.
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