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Old 06-01-05, 10:28 AM   #1
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AS: What do you think of the competitors' machines? Will Sony continue to dominate the gaming market?
Ken Kutaragi: Microsoft is trailing behind us, but they are not a threat. They are good at improving [on products], but we will be advancing to the next level with revolutionary technology. Beating us for a short moment is like accidentally winning a point from a Shihan (Karate master), and Microsoft is still not a black belt. Just like with their operating systems, they might come out with something good around the third generation of their release.

It isn't a bad thing to have a high price. When we released the original PlayStation at 39,800 yen ($368), Nintendo's Super Famicom was in the 10,000 yen range ($100 range). Still, everyone went for the PlayStation. This time, ours [the PS3] will be like a BMW that's equipped with a Ferrari engine. Nintendo's [Revolution] will be something like a new model of a family car. Some people might want it, but if it was me, I'd want to advance to the next level.
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Old 06-01-05, 10:37 AM   #2
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That's funny considering Nintendo's (non-portable) consoles have always been technically superior to Sony's.
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That's funny considering Nintendo's (non-portable) consoles have always been technically superior to Sony's.
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Old 06-01-05, 10:45 AM   #4
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always? Um The N64 was a horrible mess, Cartidge format is CRAP and the system while more bits hard horrible texture filtering (always grainy and blurry), While the PSX didn't have any it was able to produce some of the best looking games of its time (Chrono Cross , FFIX and Air Combat 3 top them all). Play RE2 on the PSX and then on the N64, sure the characters have better filtering but the FMV and backgrounds look like ass.
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He's completely right. The Nintendo 64 and the Gamecube are both technically superior (and notably so) to the Playstation and Playstation 2.
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always? Um The N64 was a horrible mess, Cartidge format is CRAP and the system while more bits hard horrible texture filtering (always grainy and blurry), While the PSX didn't have any it was able to produce some of the best looking games of its time (Chrono Cross , FFIX and Air Combat 3 top them all). Play RE2 on the PSX and then on the N64, sure the characters have better filtering but the FMV and backgrounds look like ass.
The N64 smoked the PSX in terms of 3D rendering. The PSX's advantage was in better music/FMVs with more storage space. But besides that, the N64 was more technically advanced than the PSX and it was obvious by gameplay graphics. The Gamecube also smoked the PS2 technically, again except in the case of storage space. So yeh Nintendo's home consoles have been more advanced than Sony's in the past.
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So anyway, back on topic. I think Ken's comments are completely unfounded since the Revolution hasn't been fully revealed. Even with specs, you can compare performance - we know this to be especially true considering this last generation of consoles.
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N64 being technically superior is a farce.

The PSX pwn3d the N64 in geometry output. You had FAR better geometric detail than N64 could dream of putting out. The N64 was very good at filtering relatively, and the extra 3D features (hw fog, fillrate mainly, texturing) but the cartridge took everything good about N64 and made it suck...badly.

Now with Revolution, mainly Nintendo couldn't afford the massive R&D that Sony/MS have expanded to and it's all they could put out.
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but the cartridge took everything good about N64 and made it suck...badly.
That's entirely subjective. There were advantages to the cartridge format at the time.

Nintendo takes a beating all the time because of advertisers winning over the minds of us consumer w.hores. That Gamer's Manifesto thing actually had some very good points to make regarding that issue. I've never been interested in a device performing more functions than I want it to, and I'm not going to be (hence why I ditched the PSP and will most likely return to the DS).
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The PSX pwn3d the N64 in geometry output. You had FAR better geometric detail than N64 could dream of putting out.
Is that why most PSX games had static backgrounds? I remember N64 games having a lot more geometry going on at once...especially in games like Conker's Bad Fur Day or Zelda: OOT. If anything they were on par. Of course, these are mere offhand observations, not based on any technical data.
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What I don't understand is how can that Sony rep say that Microsoft is not a threat? Sony was in the same position Microsoft is in now just a few years ago. Back in the 90s Nintendo was the King when it came to video gaming... they could do no wrong... then Sony came alone and snatched that title away from them. Sony better open their eyes and stop acting like they are untouchable!
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What I don't understand is how can that Sony rep say that Microsoft is not a threat? Sony was in the same position Microsoft is in now just a few years ago. Back in the 90s Nintendo was the King when it came to video gaming... they could do no wrong... then Sony came alone and snatched that title away from them. Sony better open their eyes and stop acting like they are untouchable!
Tru 'dat.

I still think a video game crash is coming (and if it does, not soon enough).
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The Xbox console is superior to the PS2 console in every single way. If he doesn't realize this then whatever. Which system has better games is all a matter of opinion, but it's a fact Xbox is a better console than PS2 with more capabilities. Sony was the one trailing in technology with the add-on HDD, the add-on Ethernet interface which came years later, etc. In addition, what did PS2 bring to the table? Nothing but improved graphics. Xbox brought an integrated HDD, Ethernet port, and the 1st full scale online service.

He must think we've all forgotten about the Emotion Engine, and how it was going to simulate real human emotion. That's why he's now talking about "producing phenomena inside the computer" and "aging" SD content into full fledged HD content. This guy is a tool. Whatever makes him his living though...
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