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Old 01-03-06, 12:19 AM   #85
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Default Re: 7667 issues; black screen/ X windows crashing

Alright- I'm back after a duration of not using Linux. Like I said, I'm back to Linux, tired of always using bloated XP.

Anyways, my hardware has remained the same.

-I have upgraded to Ubuntu 5.10 (clean install).
-I have tried the packages in Ubuntu's Synaptic package manager and using the latest 2 nvidia installers (8174 and 8178), all with similar results (similar to before).

When I use 8147 or 8178, I cannot boot into X at all. It goes through the dialog, shows the Ubuntu logo, which quickly changes into a glitched-color version of the logo for a moment, and then crashes to a black screen.

To be able to boot up X/gnome, I have to uninstall the driver and install nvidia-glx from synaptic, and it will also not boot up under a xorg.conf file that should work. The "driver" setting must be changed back to the old "nv" setting to use the old driver, and then X and gnome will boot (with what appears to be no 3d support at all).

When I boot up with the nvidia-glx package installed and with the xorg.conf driver set to "nvidia", it generates an error log, Xorg.0.log, which I have attached. I have also attached the xorg.conf file generated by the 8178 install which, I believe, should work under either setup.

I'll attach a bug file after a crash from the 8178 soon. I've gone through some of the solutions on here (ensuring that the nvidia-glx and related are uninstalled (and gone from /etc/init.d/) when installing the 8178 drivers- nothing seems to be working).

Anyways, I don't plan on disappearing back to the dark side again (windows) - I'd really like to see this resolved.

And, while I'm at it,
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File Type: log xorg.conf.log (3.5 KB, 120 views)

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Old 01-03-06, 12:59 AM   #86
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Alright- I couldn't seem to run the nvidia-bug-report.sh after the crash - I got a 'could not execure binary file' error.

However, it did throw another X error - I've attached this one as well. (this is running the 8178 driver install)
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Old 01-03-06, 10:34 AM   #87
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Here's your problem:
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(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(EE) /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so is an unrecognized module type
(II) UnloadModule: "glx"
(EE) Failed to load module "glx" (unknown module type, 6)
(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o
(EE) /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o is an unrecognized module type
(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (unknown module type, 6)
#####

Something looks to be broken in your environment, well beyond the nvidia driver. If you are not able to run the bug report script (which basically calls alot of generic OS tools, and nothing specific to the nvidia driver), then that really should be investigated and resolved first.

Just to confirm, you're installing the nvidia driver and running the bug report script as the root user, and not via sudo?

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Old 01-03-06, 11:02 AM   #88
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I think that I ran it through sudo. I'll fiddle with this some more.

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Old 01-04-06, 06:57 PM   #89
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Alright- I got the nvidia-glx package installed (apt-get) correctly, and I'm getting the exact same symptoms as I did with the newest 2 drivers (manual install). If I remember right, the packaged driver is 7667.

Black screen as X attempts to start, hard lock up. I've included a log report after a reboot into recovery mode. I've also included the xorg.conf file that I am booting too.

Seeing that the exact things are occuring, regardless of the driver or method of installation, and I haven't made any significant changes to Ubuntu either time (between 2 versions, 5.04 and 5.10), and the majority of users are not having much of an issue, is it most likely a hardware conflict-type issue?

So... should I go ahead and install the newer drivers? Ubuntu doesn't seem to care...it locks up the same either way... and I don't really see the need, unless you've can get better bug reports and such through them.

Thanks so far...
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Old 01-04-06, 07:43 PM   #90
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Ah... I got it running.

After randomly reading through the
HOWTO on the Ubuntu forums, someone was having similar problems and could boot up by disabling the 'NvAGP' option.

My xorg.conf is identical except for the device section, where I disabled all the other stuff a walkthrough had enabled and added that option:

Code:
Section "Device"
    Identifier     "NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    BusID 	   "PCI:1:0:0"
    Option  "NvAGP" "0"
    #Option "RenderAccel"  "On"
    #Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices"  "DFP, TV"
    #Option "NoRenderExtension"  "On"
    #Option "Accel"  "On"
    #Option "AllowGLXWithComposite"  "Off"
EndSection
Now it works wonderfully. I haven't been able to test it other than the 3d screensavers though (but they look fantastic compared to before... some are almost too fast ).

So, my next question is what is NvAGP? Do I or should I want it enabled?
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Old 01-04-06, 08:49 PM   #91
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Setting NvAGP=0 means that you've disabled AGP altogether. In other words, you're taking a huge performance hit.

What kind of motherboard are you using, and which BIOS version?

Also, have you tested with a 2.6.15 kernel?

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Old 01-04-06, 09:28 PM   #92
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Setting NvAGP=0 means that you've disabled AGP altogether. In other words, you're taking a huge performance hit.
Yeah- looking through some of the screensavers, I noticed they were still having some framerate issues.

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What kind of motherboard are you using, and which BIOS version?
Well, way back on page 2, I posted:
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Originally Posted by tht00
I've found my motherboard to be:
Board: ASUSTek Computer INC. Salmon 1.04
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 3.12 04/20/2005

and on the board, I found the model number 'K8S LA'.

From what I can tell on the ASUS website, they never created such a board or have drivers/BIOS/anything on it (it seems to be an HP/Compaq specific board ). However, there is a similar K8S MX board. I'm going to head over to their forums after I post this to see whats going on.
I upgraded it at that time to whatever was newest. I can get you my current version soon (and I'll also look for another upgrade), but I simply don't have the time to do it now.

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Also, have you tested with a 2.6.15 kernel?
I'm still quite new to Ubuntu and Linux in general. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of support for upgrading to the 2.6.15 kernel in Breezy (5.10), and I'd rather not, if it can be avoided. Dapper, the next version, I believe will have the 2.6.15 kernel.
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Old 01-05-06, 10:19 PM   #93
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Alright- I once again updated my BIOS (had to do it though XP). Still hangs on X.

I also found a utility that shows my current BIOS setup- not sure if there's anything useful in there or not, so I'll attach the whole thing.
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Old 01-07-06, 05:53 PM   #94
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*bump*

Ideas?
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Old 01-07-06, 05:56 PM   #95
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I still need to see a bug report generated against 1.0-8178.

Thanks,
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Old 01-07-06, 06:15 PM   #96
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I still need to see a bug report generated against 1.0-8178.

Thanks,
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Ok then, I'll get on that.
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