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Old 10-12-05, 01:39 AM   #13
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And now, apparently, you get MORE for cheaper if you go retail :\.
So if they eliminate retail entirely, they'll not only save cash by not using a publisher, but they can make even more cash by charging whatever they want, whenever they want. If they charge too much, less people will buy, perhaps, but since their overhead is so low, they'll make a killing regardless. This is one company that should have no control whatsoever in the pricing of their product.
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Old 10-12-05, 01:48 AM   #14
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Wow... what the hell is wrong with Valve, are they really trying to detroy the good name that Half-Life got them??? With the horribly organized packages (as well as retail), all the gripes about bugs going unfixed (and updates that break things), all the unnecessary problems caused by Steam, the crappy marketting and PR, now they are OBVIOUSLY milking their fans for all they are worth, despite all they said Steam would bring for the gamers.

With Steam, prices are higher and the money all goes to Valve as far as I know... the game is practically un-piratable as it as (dont quote me on that) so they have made back huge amounts of money that way and they have managed to avoid publishers for a pretty decent chunk of their sales, yet for some reason they still feel the need to raise prices.

Its pretty pathetic when the first example of this "major advancement" in computer gaming (online distribution without a publisher getting in the way) is exploited and abused to no end.

Kiss my ass Valve

Everyone says its the greedy publishers that are killing PC gaming, but its not... its greedy people in general.
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Old 10-12-05, 01:54 AM   #15
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HL2? What is this HL2 you speak of?

/me gets back to playing the FEAR mp demo
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Old 10-12-05, 01:59 AM   #16
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Well, so much for people saying that with Steam both the consumer and the developers would have benefits. Right now, I'm seeing that only the greedy developers are having benefits. (Wait, wasn't the publishers the bad guys ?)

I the end, I say: long live the (greedy) publishers!
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Old 10-12-05, 02:33 AM   #17
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With Steam, prices are higher and the money all goes to Valve as far as I know... the game is practically un-piratable as it as (dont quote me on that)
Gonna have to quote you anyways

Actually the ironic thing is that in spite of steam being required to activate the game in the first place, many of the people who downloaded pirated copies actually got to play the game before the legit users did. Valves content servers were pretty clogged up on that day. However, bittorrent wasn't clogged up on that day, apparently.

You probably can't play it multiplayer with a pirated copy (actually that is true with pretty much any game these days,) but sure enough, the pirates have had HL2 ever since the beginning. Steam has done almost nothing to prevent piracy, other than add a bit of inconvenience.

Actually strike that. I have heard a few times that steam has done the opposite of preventing piracy. Apparently some people have figured out how to discreetly hack steam so that it'll give them free access to the games. One such method was leaked to the public once and valve fixed that loophole, but I am sure there are other non-public methods in existence which valve isn't aware of. Worse is they'll probably allow multiplay whereas this is not possible with casual piracy of most games.
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Old 10-12-05, 03:41 AM   #19
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Hmm.. Steam sales are going directly to Valve and not to the publishers..
Didnt Valve sign a dark unholy contract with EA?
Maybe EA said to valve "Hey, you thinking of playing us like you did Vivendi? no way man, you either up you Steam prices ALOT or you dont have a publisher"
EA is a big fan of money, and if my sources are right, not a big fan of loosing money...

Just a thought *Insert eerie X-files music here*
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Old 10-12-05, 03:43 AM   #20
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That's pretty disappointing I must admit. I wonder if the new pricing structure has been arranged by the EA guys, since we all know EA are always after more money. I'm not looking for a scapegoat, it probably is Valve :/
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Old 10-12-05, 03:54 AM   #21
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That's pretty disappointing I must admit. I wonder if the new pricing structure has been arranged by the EA guys, since we all know EA are always after more money. I'm not looking for a scapegoat, it probably is Valve :/
Yeah maybe the Steam Sales were going so well they figured "lets se how much they will pay".. there is after all a convinience thing about buying online..
But it shouldnt be more expensive since ALOT of middle hands are cut out, the actual "hardware" (dvd, case, manual), the pressing of the DVDs, the shipping around the world, the sales in store etc..
Compared to the single cost of bandwidth on Steam.
So basicly I would guess if they charged the same on both retail and Steam, they would get more money from the Steam sale..

I cant really se anything that would motivate a higher price, when its ONLY affecting the online sales, other then a deal with the new publisher to keep Online sales DOWN, since the publisher isnt getting any of that action..
Or Valve is just greedy, but then they could have raised the retail price aswell..
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Old 10-12-05, 05:14 AM   #22
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Hmmm, Looked thru all their packages and can't even find a kiss to go along with the screwing.....*uninstalls hl2/steam AGAIN*
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Default Re: Hope none of you were planning on buying HL2 from Steam anytime soon...

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Hmm.. Steam sales are going directly to Valve and not to the publishers..
Didnt Valve sign a dark unholy contract with EA?
Maybe EA said to valve "Hey, you thinking of playing us like you did Vivendi? no way man, you either up you Steam prices ALOT or you dont have a publisher"
EA is a big fan of money, and if my sources are right, not a big fan of loosing money...

Just a thought *Insert eerie X-files music here*
Haha, you know, when I saw these new packages I thought to myself "Wow, Valve has really gone the way of EA", and I didn't even remember that EA was handling retail distribution at the time. The two most greedy videogame companies out there are both involved in the same game, go figure

I don't think EA had much to do with it though. More than likely, with the release of DoD:S, Valve knew that they could charge a lot more for packages that included it. Back when Silver was made, the only advantage that it had at the time was the back catalog, since the promised DoD:S was a ways off (and HL:S, but you could get that in a retail package so it wasn't exclusive to the Silver/Gold). Now that you get DoD:S immediately when you buy the game, they no longer need to have the back catalog as an incentive for people to buy the $59.99 package.
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I want to write a book of all your quotes...hahahaaha
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